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July 21, 2009 |
7:55 am |
lizkingevents: |
@MsStallings Value these days is getting harder and harder to sell. People want it for free. #eventprofs |
8:12 am |
MsStallings: |
Hope all you tweethearts can make #eventprofs chat tonight at 9PM ET w/ @beevents moderating-topic is VALUE for all! |
1:07 pm |
PlannerWire: |
RT @JeffHurt: Change it up a bit! We're tired of seeing room sets that R theatre-style & a speaker up front w/ a PPT #eventprofs (via @M ... |
1:12 pm |
beevents: |
#beevents: Good service and great ideas will always be valued and paid for. Its Value tonight @ #eventprofs. 9 pm EST http://bit.ly/1s50a |
2:44 pm |
ready2spark: |
RT @MsStallings: Hope all you tweethearts can make #eventprofs chat tonight at 9PM ET w/ @beevents moderating-topic is VALUE for all! |
6:07 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents Looking fwd 2 ur moderated chat this eve! :) #eventprofs |
6:09 pm |
bravoparty: |
Might actually participate in my first #eventprofs chat tonight. I'll lurk around before talking, don't worry folks! |
6:09 pm |
rosebrand: |
RT @keepmeeting: Support ur industry, connect, gain ideas: #eventprofs tonight at 6p PST - Join us to talk VALUE of Events. |
6:10 pm |
rachelES: |
RT @ready2spark: @beevents Looking fwd 2 ur moderated chat this eve! :) [are you ready #eventprofs?? @beevents is FULL of ideas!!!] |
6:11 pm |
ready2spark: |
@rachelES Whewf! Thank goodness you said "ideas"! LOL @beevents #eventprofs |
6:12 pm |
MsStallings: |
lol lol lol ;) RT @ready2spark: @rachelES Whewf! Thank goodness you said "ideas"! LOL @beevents #eventprofs |
6:14 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: RT @ready2spark: @beevents .... [are you ready #eventprofs?? @beevents is FULL of ideas!!!] Thank you for saying ideas. |
6:14 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: @rachelES Whewf! Thank goodness you said "ideas"! LOL @beevents #eventprofs Hey Now.... |
6:18 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents @ready2spark Hee! Well we can let #eventprofs decide for themselves in 1h45... :) |
7:16 pm |
beevents: |
Planning to attend 2night's #eventprofs. Starts in 43 mins. Prepare for the conversation by agreeing or disagreeing: http://bit.ly/tQYn4 |
8:00 pm |
beevents: |
Good evening #eventprofs gang...excited to take a turn to try and moderate this crowd of event thinkers! #eventprofs |
8:00 pm |
ready2spark: |
So excited for the chat to start! #eventprofs |
8:01 pm |
beevents: |
Tonight hoping we can start with a topic I have been noodling about lately: Value #eventprofs |
8:01 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents You'll be great! #eventprofs |
8:01 pm |
beevents: |
So lets start: What does Value mean in the meeting and event biz these days - considering the economy and all? #eventprofs |
8:01 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Introductions first? #eventprofs |
8:01 pm |
MsStallings: |
Hi @beevents! Thanks for moderating! Excited to hear all of your great idea! You were endorsed by some pretty impressive folks! #eventprofs |
8:02 pm |
beevents: |
What does Value mean for companies? Guests/Attendees? Your boss? #eventprofs |
8:02 pm |
GregRuby: |
@beevents Looking forward to the discussion. #eventprofs |
8:02 pm |
beevents: |
And how do you create value in Meetings and Events? (OK I will be quiet now) Have at it! #eventprofs |
8:02 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents did I miss the round of introductions?? #eventprofs |
8:02 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents Value means: Thinking outside the box for your clients, seeing potential issues before they start. #eventprofs |
8:03 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Introductions, please! Welcome one and all. #eventprofs |
8:03 pm |
psalinger: |
you create value by meeting audience concerns #eventprofs |
8:03 pm |
beevents: |
@rachelES No- I was excited by the topic and forgot introductions! #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
MsStallings: |
Value = proving that you truly have the best interest of the sponsor/attendee/exhibitor at heart-by tangible & intangible proof #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
Rob Swanwick from Speaker Interactive #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
pcrerar: |
Value means helping your organization achieve its goals #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents 1 of the best lessons I learned early in my career was thinking about my client's business even when they weren't #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents No prob bob! #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
Mizcity: |
Hi all! Christina, freelance event planner from NYC here :) #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
rachelES: |
well then belated intro - editor + education director of @Event Solutions, hi all! #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
GregRuby: |
Creative thinking for your clients and attendees and meeting thier hot button issues #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
ready2spark: |
Lara from Royal...er, I mean Regal Tent & ready2spark #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark I love that!! Need to print it out and stick to my wall above my monitor!! #eventprofs |
8:04 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Christopher with ShowTec, a corporate conference AND events production company. #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
GregRuby: |
Greg from the Baltimore Convention Center. Agonizing over the Yankees - Orioles game. #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
AlissaHurley: |
Hello All! Alissa from Maritz Canada here! #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
bravoparty: |
Martin from Bravo Rentals in Montreal. #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
MsStallings: |
Christina from Atlanta, work in corporate relations/exhibits at a non profit association #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
pcrerar: |
Hello. Paula from Add-Vantage Consulting Group, marketing consultant #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
keepmeeting: |
Campaign to support events industry & underscore the value we bring businesses - looking fwd to convo! #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
metzpeter: |
Peter Metz-ZOOM.7 On headset in midst of show but will follow and add as possible #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
psalinger: |
Paul Salinger from Oracle - event strategist and creative director #eventprofs |
8:05 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@GregRuby Agreed. I think we also need to see the things that our clients don't #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
rachelES: |
@bravoparty that explains why half the time you're tweeting en francais! #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
GregRuby: |
@metzpeter Wow - multitasking there! #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@metzpeter Glad you could make it Peter, how''s the show? #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
Goodevening glad to join u from a restaurant in Toronto, Carol #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
ready2spark: |
4 example I used to send Cadbury stats on the health benefits of cocoa - had nothing 2 do w/ my project, but cre8ed value 4 cust #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
MsStallings: |
Looks like we have a diverse and bigger than average group of folks here tonight! Just what I needed 4 some motivation @ work!! #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
rachelES: |
I have been deep in the value convo this week researching a story on free vs paid event content #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
bravoparty: |
@rachelES exactement! #eventprofs |
8:06 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings Thanks for the compliments - and I am looking forward to hearing your ideas!! #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@rachelES A hot topic right now. How s that going? #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
metzpeter: |
Value is clearing understanding objectives and going beyond that #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
@ready2spark have you settled on that avatar? #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
beevents: |
@rachelES And what is the "value argument?" for free vs. paid #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
ready2spark: |
Totally impressed by the group in tonight's chat! #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
rachelES: |
@ShowTecAE FASCINATING. there are so many great ideas out there - you'd be amazed #eventprofs |
8:07 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Value can also be as simple as booking logistics with hotel and not charging for that. #eventprofs |
8:08 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
I can't wait to read your article #eventprofs |
8:08 pm |
beevents: |
Welcome one and all. If you just got on: we are talking Value: What does it means for Meetings & Events and how do you create it #eventprofs |
8:08 pm |
rachelES: |
@ShowTecAE Cisco Live seems to have the best handle on it so far - very smart about it. not rocket science - sound strategy #eventprofs |
8:08 pm |
ready2spark: |
@spkrinteractive Why yes I have. Looks like this one was voted #1. Woo hoo. #eventprofs |
8:08 pm |
GregRuby: |
@rachelES Is this concerning virtual content? #eventprofs |
8:08 pm |
psalinger: |
not sure value has to do with free vs. paid - need to answer specifically what trying to do first #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@psalinger Agreed. Value, a number of times = trusted partnership, not necessarily free content. #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
beevents: |
@ShowTecAE So is that "added value" - going above expectations @read2spark too #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
rachelES: |
@GregRuby story concerns events w/virtual & live and what viable business models are out there #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
psalinger: |
it's a real question in many realms on value of content and experience overall, whether free or paid #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
beevents: |
@rachelES Do you have a link to their stuff...or do we have to wait for the article? #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
GregRuby: |
@beevents I've always considered it to be a partnership. If the client succeeds with the event, then I succeed. #eventprofs |
8:09 pm |
ready2spark: |
My view on free vs paid is that market capital flows from free value. #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents Absolutely. We used to call it "Value added service" in the industry. #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
EllenCMP: |
for customers value is always a comparison to other services/products - everything becomes the competition #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
MsStallings: |
Unexpected value: Colleague attend conf 4 med mtgs & ran into many exhibitors; they were pleased we r seeking educ & gr8 netwrkg #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
BusyEvent: |
Good evening all - Brian Slawin from the CEMA Award Winning BusyEvent - in da house! #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
rachelES: |
@psalinger I may be getting topic off track, but value is important when assoc is thinking about what value event offers membrs #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
MsStallings: |
RT @GregRuby: @beevents Ive always considered it to be a partnership. If the client succeeds with the event, then I succeed. #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
pcrerar: |
@metzpeter yes, it's about clear objectives including quantifying objectives, measuring and comparing to results #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@EllenCMP Yes, but only when looking at the overall service, not just bottom line. #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
GregRuby: |
@psalinger BTW, nice interview in Corporate Meetings & INcentives #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@BusyEvent CONGRATS on your CEMA award Brian! #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
metzpeter: |
Is value really about $$$ or is it perception? #eventprofs |
8:10 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
event value should start well before everyone shows up and continue after they are home #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
rachelES: |
@BusyEvent congrats & welcome! we need to set up a time to catch up... #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
bravoparty: |
have to agree with @EllenCMP, value is what your giving more for the same product. Value added. #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
AlissaHurley: |
Value is in the eye of the beholder. ;) #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
psalinger: |
@rachelES - for sure, a consideration, but does value always equate to monetization? #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
MsStallings: |
Is this available online? RT @GregRuby: @psalinger BTW, nice interview in Corporate Meetings & INcentives #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
rachelES: |
@ready2spark I think that deserve's more than 140 char... elaborate? #eventprofs |
8:11 pm |
ready2spark: |
@ShowTecAE Agree. Value can be much more than transactional. #eventprofs |
8:12 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@spkrinteractive YES, are we looking beyond just the line item details? #eventprofs |
8:12 pm |
beevents: |
@BusyEvent Congrats on teh award. Tell us what Value means to you. #eventprofs |
8:12 pm |
KateNasser: |
RT @spkrinteractive Event value should start well before everyone shows up and continue after they are home #eventprofs |
8:12 pm |
ready2spark: |
It's interesting reading everyone's responses - every1 is associating value w/ diff things (products, ideas, service, etc) #eventprofs |
8:12 pm |
MsStallings: |
A vendor of ours always responds to e-mails w/in an hour - to us and to our exhibitors. This is free for them, and HUGE 2 us. #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
psalinger: |
@MsStallings - yes, it is. @GregRuby tweeted it yesterday #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
cpudan: |
"The pain of poor quality endures far longer than the sweetness of good price" #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@beevents Thanks Ryan . . . I owe you a reply to your email and will confirm a convo for later this week. #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
GregRuby: |
@MsStallings I posted the link yesterday morning. #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
ready2spark: |
@rachelES Which post were u referring 2? Sorry, chat's moving fast! #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@MsStallings that is a great example of value. Prompt response = time saved. #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark lol - I think in this economy, lets focus on increasing value w/o increasing cost! ;) #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
BusyEvent: |
Value means never having to say your sorry. #eventprofs |
8:13 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
Can we align value with our values! It becomes simple then, communicate, build relations #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents I don't have anything yet, still in info gathering stage, but I will share ASAP! #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
beevents: |
@metzpeter A question I want to get too: In our world today CHEAP seems to be "perceived" as VALUE. #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
MsStallings: |
@BusyEvent or atleast coming clean immediately with a solution and sincere apology in hand. shows "we're in this together". #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
rachelES: |
@ready2spark indeed, we shd probably parse them one by one... up to you @beevents! #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents Oh god, yep! And that drives me insane. #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
beevents: |
But I find that most of the time, when CHEAP is selected, it is b/c the client may not know what they want in the 1st place #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
BusyEvent: |
I'm always reminded of the sign in our local deli when asked the 'value' question . . . #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@beevents CHEAP is just cheap #eventprofs |
8:14 pm |
psalinger: |
RT @MsStallings: @ready2spark lol - I think in this economy, lets focus on increasing value w/o increasing cost! ;) #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
GregRuby: |
@beevents NO! - Cheap is not value. You get what you pay for. If you cut corners, you will pay in the long run. #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
beevents: |
It is back to the question of learning how to set strategy in your meeting and event design #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
rachelES: |
@ready2spark market capital.. free value....? #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
BusyEvent: |
The sweet taste of cheap will long be forgotten while the sour taste of bad lingers on. #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
psalinger: |
RT @beevents: It is back to the question of learning how to set strategy in your meeting and event design #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
pcrerar: |
value is about $ when you are talking to Finance,they often have final say in approving budget. Value 2 attndee is more cmplex #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ShowTecAE Def encourage me to respond to attendees/exhibitors/colleagues MUCH faster - b/c I know how much I appreciate it. #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents conspicuous thrift is the new conspicuous spending. not such a bad thing in my book #eventprofs |
8:15 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@MsStallings True, to an extent. I know it's trite but the under promise, over deliver mantra always works for us. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@BusyEvent And yet we see article after article of how to bid your suppliers down. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
rachelES: |
RT @BusyEvent: The sweet taste of cheap will long be forgotten while the sour taste of bad lingers on. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
BusyEvent: |
Value really means that we've heard what the client wanted and listened and then delivered. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
beevents: |
@KateNasser So you are talking about attendee value. Who rates higher the CLIENT or the ATTENDEE when it comes 2 creating value #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
cpudan: |
and we have to keep innovating at the same time... #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
metzpeter: |
@psalinger Increased costs need to be justified with equiv benefit. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@MsStallings And that leads to effect customer service, which also translates to value #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
beevents: |
It is about smart spending: Right choices are better than nothing, and nothing beats Cheap everyday. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
GregRuby: |
Take care of customers when you don't have to. You'll make out better when you do have to take care of your customers. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
Hello everyone. I am joining the convo a little late. #eventprofs |
8:16 pm |
MsStallings: |
So tru! RT @pcrerar: value is $ when u r talking 2 Finance,they have final say in approving budget.Value 2 attndee=more cmplex #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
MelyMello: |
Melissa here from Blackbox in Toronto. Sorry I'm late. Feels like forever since I've been able to join! #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
psalinger: |
RT @BusyEvent: Value really means that we've heard what the client wanted and listened and then delivered. #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
BusyEvent: |
Value really means that we've heard what the client wanted and listened and then delivered. #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
ready2spark: |
@rachelES Ah, yes - def. better in over 140 chars. Free value can generate higher prices, new services, brand awareness. #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents Meeting planner once told me, attendees are real clients, we are all vendors. #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: RT @BusyEvent: The sweet taste of cheap will long be forgotten while the sour taste of bad lingers on. AMEN #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
EllenCMP: |
there is a relationship of value and quality #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
MsStallings: |
@JessicaLevin better late then never!! Welcome! Glad you could make it!! #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
BusyEvent: |
JESSICA . . . . salute! #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
AlissaHurley: |
Value is often measured in contribution to the customer's bottom line. #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
How can we compare value and cheap when most cannot and/or do not measure value? #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
sparklegem: |
Jumping in a little late, too. Hi all. #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
EventSolutions: |
Article: Increase Value w/o Lowering Prices http://budurl.com/xelp See pro & con arguments at bottom #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@MsStallings What is the topic? #eventprofs |
8:17 pm |
metzpeter: |
@beevents Too true. Bottom line too often means bottom of the barrel. #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
ready2spark: |
@rachelES @beevents Had a client w/ mgmt turnover go w/ a cheaper supplier. Tents blew down. Did the client get value? #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@EllenCMP they don't stand alone value/quality #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@sparklegem Hey stranger! #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
GregRuby: |
@JessicaLevin Welcome to the conversation! #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
ready2spark: |
@cpudan Innovate or die a dusty death. #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@AlissaHurley Or at least in their measurable ROI . . . bottom line isn't always the only "measure" (don't let CFO read that)! #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
MsStallings: |
@JessicaLevin Value - to all, attendees, supporters, colleagues, vendors - what is it and how do we provide the best? #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ShowTecAE: @beevents ... attendees are real clients, we are all vendors. Interesting. But who makes the decisions? #eventprofs |
8:18 pm |
rachelES: |
@sparklegem welcome!! we are talking all about value #eventprofs |
8:19 pm |
metzpeter: |
@JessicaLevin Welcome Jessica. Exploring value in our world #eventprofs |
8:19 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents Well, the attendees vote with their pocket books. Bad program = bad attendance = low revpar #eventprofs |
8:19 pm |
MsStallings: |
@beevents I guess the attendee - we just mold it so it works fiscally, technically, etc...try our best? #eventprofs |
8:19 pm |
rachelES: |
@MsStallings all about understanding your members/customers/clients' needs - rethink how to meet those needs #eventprofs |
8:19 pm |
BusyEvent: |
I really believe that 'value' is a perception by the recipient. If we do a good job listening and delivering, value results. #eventprofs |
8:19 pm |
pcrerar: |
Great point RT @spkrinteractive: How can we compare value and cheap when most cannot and/or do not measure value? #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings And how do we increase value without cost? #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@MsStallings I have the feeling that value is the du jour. I believe in it, but it seems very over used. Value is subjective. #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
@ShowTecAE hmm so many reasons including external. Can we always pin it on quality? #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark NO the client got what they paid for. Shouldn't be upset or shockd. #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
beevents: |
@JessicaLevin Welcome. Tell us what Value means to you! #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
ready2spark: |
I believe that value lives beyond the bottom line. Why buy a MAC, a BMW, a Starbucks coffee. Value is emotive. #eventprofs |
8:20 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@beevents Maybe you need to increase cost to demonstrate value. #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
rachelES: |
@BusyEvent agreed - listen listen listen listen! @jimcoxideas spoke on that at #hsmailax panel today #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@spkrinteractive Quality can be subjective, true. Great team (not cheap) can head of problems. Seamless to attendees. #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
MsStallings: |
@beevents customer service is obvious answer, more face time instead of post-mtg surveys, immediate reaction to survery response #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: @rachelES Free value can generate higher prices, new services, brand awareness. #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
Mizcity: |
Value is the quality of service/item received in relation to the clients expectation. #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
MelyMello: |
NICE! RT @BusyEvent: The sweet taste of cheap will long be forgotten while the sour taste of bad lingers on #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@JessicaLevin Agree, Agree, Agree! Setting expectations is a vital part of the perception of value by the client. #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
beevents: |
@EllenCMP How do you identify that relationship between value and quality? #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
ISESEvents: |
RT @eventprofs:A list of #eventprofs attending #ISES EventWorld. Add your name to the list! http://tinyurl.com/k.. http://bit.ly/2PSIUf |
8:21 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@beevents Value means I am getting the best product given the circumstances. #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
psalinger: |
@ready2spark - emotive and emotional and experiential to some degree #eventprofs |
8:21 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@ready2spark Copletely agree! Value is a perception beyond the ROI. #eventprofs |
8:22 pm |
beevents: |
@ShowTecAE But do planners think far ahead? or corporations/associations planning the event for those long term repercussions #eventprofs |
8:22 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@ready2spark Agreed! #eventprofs |
8:22 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
Any good blog posts on measuring event value? #eventprofs |
8:22 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@beevents There may not be a relationship between value and quality . . . but there IS a relat. between value and client desire. #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
MsStallings: |
Liked that MPI (despite controversy) included $100 for 2010 mtg reg fees 2 ppl who bought VAP-prob didn't cost 2 much overall #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
sparklegem: |
@ready2spark Agreed. You can get quantitatively "less," (education, perks) but will be valuable if connections "feel" impt. #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents That IS value! Thinking ahead, being flexible. Working toward the same goal as a team. Being ready for anything. #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@beevents if planners are not thinking ahead, they aren't planners! #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@beevents We think ahead. Things have changed recently, but we are looking at what will be the reactions "next time." #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
ready2spark: |
Back in my branding days, we used to do analysis on our clients brands. Value was "how does the brand make me FEEL". #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@rachelES Value is really a 2-way conversation that starts with client goals and ends with successfuly delivery by us #eventprofs |
8:23 pm |
rachelES: |
@spkrinteractive let me know if you find stats - am looking but haven't come up w/much yet #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
GregRuby: |
@MsStallings Very true - MPI did not have to do that. #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
cpudan: |
@EllenCMP Ahead - behind and around all corners! #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
MsStallings: |
Makes sense 2 meRT @ready2spark: We used to do analysis on our clients brands. Value was "how does the brand make me FEEL". #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: Value is emotive. We are in the biz of Human Interaction = 2 many variables to control in the user experience #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
metzpeter: |
@rachelES hmmm value and client desires are not always compatible. :-) #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
rachelES: |
@sparklegem what's important is what you can ONLY get f2f. education = anywhere. experience = limited #eventprofs |
8:24 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@ready2spark Hotels do that now, working on re-branding to emote emotional response to product. #eventprofs |
8:25 pm |
MsStallings: |
I think our industry would be the forefront of innovation in the face of the current economy-web casts, unconferences, use of SM #eventprofs |
8:25 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: @BusyEvent agreed - listen listen listen listen! it is all about listening. #eventprofs |
8:25 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents Can you expand on that comment "2 many variables 2 control in the user experience"? #eventprofs |
8:25 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings People want to feel like they have been heard. #eventprofs |
8:25 pm |
metzpeter: |
opps time to earn my paycheck and provide some value to this production. BRB #eventprofs |
8:25 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
RT @rachelES: whats important is what you can ONLY get f2f. education = anywhere. experience = limited #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@MsStallings We should be, and yet many planners have not yet embraced the latest resources. #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
ready2spark: |
@ShowTecAE Yes! There are so many gr8 examples of experiential brands: Harley Davidson, Disney, etc. Brand lives beyond product. #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
AlissaHurley: |
I'm thinking value can be defined similarly to a brand - the intangible sum of a product's attributes. #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
cpudan: |
@MsStallings and Virtual meetings / distance learning... #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents not just FEEL like it. allowing customers/attendees to colloborate in organizational change = key #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
MelyMello: |
@metzpeter amazing set shots you posted! Hope the show is going great! #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
psalinger: |
RT @BusyEvent: @rachelES Valu rlly a 2-way conversation that starts w/client goals & ends w/ successful dlivry by us #eventprofs. well put! |
8:26 pm |
beevents: |
RT @spkrinteractive: Any good blog posts on measuring event value? I will write one tonight. #eventprofs |
8:26 pm |
GregRuby: |
@MsStallings I would argue that our industry is more reactive than proactive in these matters. #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents ie, easist way to disgruntle ppl is ask for their feedback and then not take it! #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
If you provide some education pre-conf, there is more time for "experience" and collaboration at conf #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
MsStallings: |
@JessicaLevin sadly I know. SM can be such a great tool to get ppl engaged and at a low cost . . #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@ready2spark Do you think that works better for consumer brands? #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@GregRuby I would have to agree with that, most of the time. #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
Mizcity: |
RT @AlissaHurley: Im thinking value can be defined similarly to a brand - the intangible sum of a products attributes. #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
psalinger: |
off early tonight, going to a music event. thx for chat all #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
beevents: |
@JessicaLevin It is justifying the increased cost for an assumed increase in value which it hard to articulate sometimes. #eventprofs |
8:27 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@MsStallings Everyone in this room gets it. It seems like there is a lot of edication that needs to take place. #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
MsStallings: |
@GregRuby can you explan more? I've been pretty impressed-atleast with what the folks in this community are doing/brainstorming #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
rachelES: |
@GregRuby yes - @sweetsue mentioned in a blog post - social media ppl sometimes get events better than event ppl #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
MelyMello: |
@rachelES or to take it and not act on it! (feedback) #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
At #assnchat today they talked about crowdsourcing for content and speakers at conf. Can add value if we listen to responses #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
ready2spark: |
@JessicaLevin Gr8 question! B2B brands - can also live beyond the product/service. Can any1 think of an example? #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
GregRuby: |
@ShowTecAE Yes, there are always exceptions. #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@psalinger Have fun Paul #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
beevents: |
RT @AlissaHurley: value can be defined similarly to a brand - the intangible sum of a products. GREAT EVENTS prove 2+2=5 #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
ready2spark: |
@psalinger 'night! #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@beevents Very true. Especially these days. Maybe we need to work on communication. #eventprofs |
8:28 pm |
EllenCMP: |
speaking about value - how do we demonstrate our value to clients, employers, govt? #eventprofs |
8:29 pm |
sparklegem: |
@AlissaHurley True, but even mrkt side have 2 put numbers on intangibles. Down to evaluating tone, depth of convos (as in SM) #eventprofs |
8:29 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@GregRuby I would like to think that everyone here lives by that exception. :) #eventprofs |
8:29 pm |
pcrerar: |
@spkrinteractive I helped start a new blog on event value/measurement eventmeasurement411.com #eventprofs |
8:29 pm |
MsStallings: |
@psalinger Have fun! Thx for joining! #eventprofs |
8:29 pm |
keepmeeting: |
RT @EllenCMP: speaking about value - how do we demonstrate our value to clients, employers, govt? #eventprofs |
8:29 pm |
GregRuby: |
@MsStallings Well, here you are dealing with folks that are cutting edge. Many event folks are stuck in the 80s or 90s. #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
beevents: |
@ready2spark The problem of people is that you can't control all the variable they each bring to the table at your event #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
keepmeeting: |
RT @pcrerar: I helped start a new blog on event value/measurement http://eventmeasurement411.wordpress.com/ #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@GregRuby When do you think the generations will change over. Do you think it will be drastic? #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@EllenCMP Past performance? Testimonials? Case Studies? Invite them to an event and watch you in action? #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
@pcrerar excellent. Will check it out. @rachelES did you see msg? #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
Mizcity: |
@GregRuby @MsStallings isn't it up to us to catch the rest of our field up to speed? #eventprofs |
8:30 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: @beevents not just FEEL like it. allowing customers/attendees to colloborate in organizational change = key AGREE #eventprofs |
8:31 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@JessicaLevin the generation change is going to be monumental #eventprofs |
8:31 pm |
AlissaHurley: |
@sparklegem Definitely - the ongoing challenge - measuring the intangibles. #eventprofs |
8:31 pm |
GregRuby: |
@JessicaLevin I'm impatient - it can't happen soon enough. Within 10 years we should see a big difference. #eventprofs |
8:31 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@Mizcity Not necessarily, there is some survival of the fittest even in our industry. #eventprofs |
8:31 pm |
MsStallings: |
@GregRuby True. -the usual response to SM ideas is-"who uses Twtr? Ppl don't care that I'm eating pizza!"-don't see potential #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
BusyEvent: |
@JessicaLevin Wrote a blog about that today: http://www.busyevent.com/blog/?p=111 - It's all about status quo #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
beevents: |
RT @JessicaLevin: @ready2spark Do you think that works better for consumer brands? - I think it is easier to identify for B2C #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
MelyMello: |
@EllenCMP what do you mean? #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents less control = greater engagement, @jimcoxideas said today at #hsmailax #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents And how does that help/hurt value? #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
beevents: |
@psalinger Thanks for joining us.... #eventprofs |
8:32 pm |
GregRuby: |
@Mizcity That is true - we need to be the evangelists to get the word out. But some have thier ears and minds closed. #eventprofs |
8:33 pm |
MsStallings: |
@Mizcity yep - but its not easy. SM provides SO many opportunity. Innovation = risk..hard to justify in this economy #eventprofs |
8:33 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@MelyMello as more SM users enter the work force, there is going to be a big clash about how we work, learn, live #eventprofs |
8:33 pm |
cpudan: |
@beevents YES I think it is up to us to teach / spread the word. I think we are doing a good job of it to tell you the truth! #eventprofs |
8:33 pm |
rachelES: |
@spkrinteractive @pcrerar missed it... was it a link? #eventprofs |
8:33 pm |
Mizcity: |
@ShowTecAE I think it's at least up to us to attempt to bring the industry up to speed. Those who ignore it are not the fittest. #eventprofs |
8:33 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@cpudan or are we preaching to the choir? #eventprofs |
8:34 pm |
rachelES: |
@EllenCMP maybe, but tough economy will speed up process of ppl getting w/program #eventprofs |
8:34 pm |
beevents: |
@EllenCMP By speaking in value language: talking strategy Talking about Investment and return and being able to demonstrate it. #eventprofs |
8:34 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@Mizcity Agreed, point was some will always want to "do it like we always did". Those that don't adapt are doomed to failure. #eventprofs |
8:34 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
@rachelES http://eventmeasurement411.wordpress.com/ #eventprofs |
8:34 pm |
MelyMello: |
@EllenCMP ahhh yes, got it! Agreed! #eventprofs |
8:34 pm |
Mizcity: |
I think it increases our value as an industry for as many of its professionals to be as tech and SM versed as possible. #eventprofs |
8:35 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
RT @MsStallings@ Mizcity yep - but its not easy. SM provides SO many opportunity. Innovation = risk..hard to justify in economy #eventprofs |
8:35 pm |
GregRuby: |
@EllenCMP Almost every meetings industry major event now has topics dealing with social media, so we are getting the word out. #eventprofs |
8:35 pm |
sparklegem: |
Also Gen Y entering market place as BBs retire will impact speed in which businesses adapt 2 new tech, from entry level up. #eventprofs |
8:35 pm |
MsStallings: |
So how do we demonstrate value of innovation/SM to our colleagues in a fast/impactful way? #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
beevents: |
@ready2spark It doesn't necessarily hurt - just has to be accounted #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
cpudan: |
@EllenCMP I have seen a lot of "deer in the headlights" looks in the last 6 months... but people are coming around #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
ready2spark: |
@rachelES Sorry, had 2 go away for a bit. Re: market capital - The Whuffie Factor is a good book 2 read. #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@MsStallings Many of the strongest business emerged when people took risks in down times. #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
beevents: |
@rachelES If you are working to engage them... through a great event strategy and design. #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
Mizcity: |
@ShowTecAE I agree 100%. If our colleagues choose to ignore the advancement of the industry, then so be it. #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@GregRuby True, @psalinger and i are doing a webcast the 28th about leveraging Twitter in Live event with @EMI #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
metzpeter: |
back now. Nothing like 8000 screaming ladies to get the blood going. #eventprofs |
8:36 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@MsStallings anecdotes - examples where the impact has been tremendous. It's what got me on board. #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@MsStallings We need case studies. #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@metzpeter LOL #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
ready2spark: |
@metzpeter Are you talking about our twitter chat or your event ;) #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
SUBTERFUGIO_US: |
@Beevents. 2+2=5?? if 5 is the result you have acct error if 3 then u have sales and/or production error total must ALWAYS be 4 #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
@metzpeter you work in male strip club? :) #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
bravoparty: |
these value argument are great but as customers, what are you looking at your profit margins or the value for the $ #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
EventSolutions: |
RT @ShowTecAE: @psalinger and i are doing a webcast the 28th about leveraging Twitter in Live event with @EMI #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Look at #eventprofs - utilizing new tech in a way outside the box. #eventprofs |
8:37 pm |
GregRuby: |
@ShowTecAE I've signed up for that webinar and am looking forward to it. #eventprofs |
8:38 pm |
beevents: |
@sparklegem But us "Y"ers want engagement always and the opportunities to cause change/have a voice! #eventprofs |
8:38 pm |
Mizcity: |
@GregRuby Agreed. As the thought leaders in this topic, though, its at least up to us to spread the good word. #eventprofs |
8:38 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@GregRuby Sweet! I look forward to your feedback. #eventprofs |
8:38 pm |
GregRuby: |
@metzpeter Mary Kay again? #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
sparklegem: |
@MsStallings To help encourage SM adoption, will see more case studies, prove revenue directly from SM. http://snurl.com/norfi #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
cpudan: |
Patience is a key - I think everyone will "get it" in the end. Can't wait 2 see what's "Next" #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
MsStallings: |
@JessicaLevin Agree! Look @ Hyundai-used ad in superbowl & talked econ-while no1 else addressed it-"if u lose ur job,return car" #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
MelyMello: |
@ShowTecAE can you share the webinar info? #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
rachelES: |
RT @Mizcity: As the thought leaders in this topic, tho, it's at least up to us to spread the good word. [WORD!] #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
Mizcity: |
@JessicaLevin @MSStallings I agree. Repetion of positive results of use of SM in events proves value. #eventprofs |
8:39 pm |
rachelES: |
@cpudan yes, i think all event pros shd be involved in social media community. #eventprofs |
8:40 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@Mizcity @Jeffhurt made a great point today, looking to remake the "conference". Is there a way to engage not talking head? #eventprofs |
8:40 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
What is unique is the generations response to SM we have youth 16-20 involved in special leadership project they get it #eventprofs |
8:40 pm |
rachelES: |
for example, i go to Social Media Club events here in LA. Only met 1 event pro so far #eventprofs |
8:40 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Link to Webinar: http://ow.ly/hf2a #eventprofs |
8:40 pm |
beevents: |
RT @Mizcity: @JessicaLevin @MSStallings I agree. Repetion of positive results of use of SM in events proves value. #eventprofs |
8:40 pm |
MsStallings: |
im interested RT @EventSolutions: RT @ShowTecAE: @psalinger & i r doing webcast the 28th re leveraging Twtr in Live event w/@EMI #eventprofs |
8:41 pm |
sparklegem: |
@beevents Absolutely. SM a good way for Gen Y to immediately impact marketplace, network in industry, demo thot leadership. #eventprofs |
8:41 pm |
BusyEvent: |
I think there's some general confusion about how to really 'roll up' SM into an event. #eventprofs |
8:41 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@rachelES Spread the word, link to SM club? #eventprofs |
8:41 pm |
MsStallings: |
Where is @MichaelMcCurry? #eventprofs |
8:41 pm |
beevents: |
@eventbootcamp ANd more unique - Gen Y wants to be engaged and involved!! Tehy want to create actionable change, not just talk. #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
GregRuby: |
Social Media is to the events industry today what "green" was 2 years ago. #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
Mizcity: |
@ShowTecAE sorry, can you clarify? #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
@rachelES I understand that, LA is not as Tweet chat as us Canadians #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
rachelES: |
@ShowTecAE yes & i'm sure #spkrchat folks cd tell us how spkrs are shifting what they offer to be more engaging live and pre-con #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
BusyEvent: |
For instance, @psalinger was at an event on Monday, tweeted that he didn't have some things he needed . . . #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
beevents: |
@SUBTERFUGIO_US I meant the experience is greater than all the components. #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
MsStallings: |
YES!! RT @GregRuby: Social Media is to the events industry today what "green" was 2 years ago. #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
SUBTERFUGIO_US: |
Action is an idea that passed the test: is it feasible, practical and cost effictive u must answer YES to all then it's a go #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
BusyEvent: |
and no one at the event was monitoring their own hashtag. I'd start with using SM as an operations channel. #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
beevents: |
@GregRuby So what is next? #eventprofs |
8:42 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@Mizcity Clarify which? #eventprofs |
8:43 pm |
bravoparty: |
So true RT @GregRuby: Social Media is to the events industry today what "green" was 2 years ago. #eventprofs |
8:43 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
RT @MsStallings: YES!! RT @GregRuby: Social Media is to the events industry today what "green" was 2 years ago. #eventprofs |
8:43 pm |
rachelES: |
@BusyEvent let me tell you how many events i've been to (f2f or virtual) where they don't monitor their own hashtag!! #petpeeve #eventprofs |
8:43 pm |
MsStallings: |
Print out livetweets from similiar conferences and show them to colleages, says: if we don't get on board, they will 4 us! #eventprofs |
8:43 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ShowTecAE: @Mizcity @Jeffhurt Is there a way to engage not talking head? By turning the event into a marketplace of dialogue #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
metzpeter: |
Is SM just a fad then? #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
just checking into chat. So Cal traffic. Ack. Didn't dare tweet & drive The Govenator is just looking for $ these days. :) #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
GregRuby: |
@beevents I wish I knew.... #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
MsStallings: |
@metzpeter No way. Twitter may be-but SM as a medium is not a fad. #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
rachelES: |
@beevents next is EventCamp where we all get together in collab learning environment to share knowledge! #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@MsStallings YES YES YES #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents That is a great analogy! #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
GregRuby: |
@metzpeter It's not a fad, but it is today's buzzword. #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
beevents: |
@metzpeter Great Question! #eventprofs |
8:44 pm |
bravoparty: |
@metzpeter I don,t beleive so, SM is what the Web was less than 10 years ago. #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
Mizcity: |
@ShowTecAE Re: engaging the not talking head. sorry :) #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
MsStallings: |
@Partyaficionado Welcome! Glad you could make it! We don't have those laws on the east coast . . . yet. #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@metzpeter I would have to say no, SM just the beginning. #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
pnv123: |
RT @MsStallings: @metzpeter No way. Twitter may be-but SM as a medium is not a fad. #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@metzpeter No. It's just a paradigm shift in the way we communicate.#eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
ready2spark: |
@metzpeter SM is a fundamental shift in the way that we connect and communicate with one another. #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
beevents: |
@GregRuby And I wish I knew the Event ROI equivalent to the "Media Impression" and "Web Click Through". #eventprofs |
8:45 pm |
rachelES: |
@bravoparty social media will evovle. the need to connect & engage will stay. #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: @beevents next is EventCamp where we all get together in collab learning environment to share knowledge! AMEN! #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
EllenCMP: |
RT @MsStallings: Print out livetweets from similiar conf & show them to others, says: if we dont get on board, they will 4 us! #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@Mizcity Ah, is there a way to set conference where you are not just listening to someone droning on at a podium all day? #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
sparklegem: |
@metzpeter I don't think it's a fad, but SM tools, measurement, integration will evolve rapidly.Could look totally diff in 1 yr. #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
Mizcity: |
@metzpeter No, SM isn't a fad but its a rapidly evolving monster that is bound to grow and change & eed to welcome it! #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: @metzpeter SM is a fundamental shift in the way that we connect and communicate with one another. Yep! #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
SUBTERFUGIO_US: |
Selling by price destroys brand- M Dell said: a recession is a terrible thing 2 waste Dont carry a client or staff who is weak #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
MsStallings: |
gr8 summart RT @ready2spark: @metzpeter SM is a fundamental shift in the way that we connect and communicate with one another. #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
ready2spark: |
As I said in a recent article "our future customers practically came out of the womb carrying a keyboard & mouse" #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
MelyMello: |
Ages ago someone posted a link to a ROI calculator that was AWESOME. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? ... #eventprofs |
8:46 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@ShowTecAE Talking heads are an old-school way of conferencing. Adults learn best from each other. #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
beevents: |
@ready2spark But what I am fascinated by is that most SM usage is to further previously established relationship. #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
MelyMello: |
Input data and it changes the bottom line ROI calculation. #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
metzpeter: |
I think SM forms the foundation for rethinking how we interact and network. Means are transitional impact is long range. My $.02 #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
RT @JessicaLevin: Talking heads are an old-school way of conferencing. Adults learn best from each other. #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@JessicaLevin adults learn best when the learning is interactive #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
beevents: |
@ShowTecAE Yes, by utilizing good meeting and event design. See previous post to you... #eventprofs |
8:47 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
? 4 those who att: wec09. Re: SM "be authentic" was tweeted a few x's. I know wht it mns 2 me. what did that mean to wec? #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Pony express - Telegram - Phone - Fax - Email - Social Media. It's the next step in the evolution. #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents I'm someone who, generally speaking, hates the word "ROI" used 4 non-quantitative things. They just don't connect. #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
Mizcity: |
@rachelES @jeffhurt @jessicalevin and I have been discussing EventCamps. Think its a great way to intro SM to the field #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
pcrerar: |
@beevents you can at least provide attendance numbers, survey responses to intent to purchase, likelihood to recommend ?s #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
MsStallings: |
@beevents @ready2spark - totally, I don't seek out client/vendors-I look for more customer service, feedback, ideas on here #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
beevents: |
@JessicaLevin It is all about peer to peer. And facilitating that dialogue. Future of Meetings and Events. #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
sparklegem: |
@ready2spark I like that phrasing. Have used "digitally native gen" 2 refer 2 Gen Y & younger. My 1st comp class 3rd grade! #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@beevents Agreed, part of our business model as well. #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents Depends on the medium. Twitter is 95% new contacts for me. #eventprofs |
8:48 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@EllenCMP Good point. Interactive learning from each other - multi-dimentional learning. #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
rachelES: |
@Mizcity @jeffhurt @jessicalevin well oh my goodness count me in! huge need for it #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark but contacts as colleagues/industry friends? or as prospects? likely the first, right? #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
beevents: |
@Partyaficionado AUTHENTICITY. Now there is another industry buzzword. And a Value one. How does it relate?? #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents How do you quantify an experience? U can quantify elements. #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
MelyMello: |
chat hates me tonight. only posting 1/2 of my comments...grrr.... #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
EllenCMP: |
@JessicaLevin this is why our discussions are so vibrant #eventprofs |
8:49 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
Check out #pibto as an event in Toronto netted 4.5 million web hits and world record was set in Feb this year #eventprofs |
8:50 pm |
Mizcity: |
@ShowTecAE Yes, I agree with @beevents and @jessicalevin. Interactive is the key word. Attn spans are too short 4 talking heads! #eventprofs |
8:50 pm |
ready2spark: |
@MsStallings absolutely. #eventprofs |
8:50 pm |
nicolejensen: |
@metzpeter #eventprofs I doubt social media is a fad, but specific types (myspace, facebook, Twitter) are. They each have their day. |
8:50 pm |
MelyMello: |
Ages ago someone posted a link to a ROI calculator that was AWESOME. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? #eventprofs |
8:50 pm |
ready2spark: |
@sparklegem It certainly conjures up an interesting visual :) #eventprofs |
8:50 pm |
pnv123: |
@JessicaLevin Agreed, a good descriptionL multi-dimensional learning:eventprofs #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@nicolejensen Exactly. We can't focus on the tools, but on the concept of social networking. #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
rachelES: |
@MelyMello yes I think am missing some people's tweets!! #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
bravoparty: |
SM dates back before the internet in the form of BBS and web forums, it as simply evolve. #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
MsStallings: |
Facebook sn't becoming a passing trend w/o good fight, ill give em that! They are relentless in trying 2 innov8/keep interest! #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
ready2spark: |
@MsStallings Mainly just peer connections. But have some gr8 case studies for prospects via Twitter as well. #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
beevents: |
@ready2spark Don't tell the ROI Institute: Event ROI: What's the Return: http://tinyurl.com/eventroi #eventprofs |
8:51 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@Mizcity @beevents @jessicalevine AGREED! Article I recently wrote addresses that. #eventprofs |
8:52 pm |
MsStallings: |
@spam will you please handle this --> RT @ISESEvents: A list of #eventprofs attending... #eventprofs |
8:52 pm |
pnv123: |
ARe attn spans going to b reduced to 140 characters? Are attention spans going to b reduced to 140 character?#eventprofs #eventprofs |
8:52 pm |
ready2spark: |
When will @ISESEvents go away and stop impersonating a NFP organization??? #eventprofs |
8:52 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings And I think the future is about listening to all feedback and working to give every attendee a valuable expereince #eventprofs |
8:53 pm |
GregRuby: |
@ShowTecAE Ya gotta link for that article? #eventprofs |
8:53 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents Egads. #eventprofs |
8:53 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark true - curious to see what u were up to when requesting folks to tweet u w/ "regal tents" in the tweet. #eventprofs |
8:53 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Yup, http://blog.showtec.com Was published in San Diego MPI Compass Magazine. #eventprofs |
8:53 pm |
GregRuby: |
@MsStallings Thank you for that last tweet! #eventprofs |
8:54 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: @beevents How do you quantify an experience? U can quantify elements. I agree. #eventprofs |
8:54 pm |
MsStallings: |
@bravoparty will do after chat - just trying to keep up with youu all right now!! #eventprofs |
8:54 pm |
ready2spark: |
@MsStallings LOL - it wasn't a hunt 4 prospects :) Just showing keyword searches via TweetDeck. Also interesting 2 c responses! #eventprofs |
8:54 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
@beevents exactly. 2 me it means b the same YOU online as off, but when a company or org uses it. snds buzzy & not authntic #eventprofs |
8:54 pm |
CaterChat: |
@Mizcity just catching the end of convo - wanted to say that caterers = very underrepresented in SM. wd love 2 see more... #eventprofs |
8:55 pm |
beevents: |
RT @JessicaLevin: @nicolejensen Exactly. We cant focus on the tools, but on the concept of social networking. #eventprofs |
8:55 pm |
GregRuby: |
@CaterChat Much like venues are under-represented in SM. #eventprofs |
8:55 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark Why would anyone want a giant tent? LOL - obviously me BEFORE my current career!! ;) #eventprofs |
8:55 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
An important aspect of SM is to continue to build relationships on-line, on phone and in person, and at events #eventprofs |
8:56 pm |
EventSolutions: |
RT @beevents: The future is about listening to all feedback and working to give every attendee a valuable expereince #eventprofs |
8:56 pm |
SUBTERFUGIO_US: |
I like a proven formula not ready to abandon what HAS worked just to stay at present. good talent avail must b willing 2 grow #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
MsStallings: |
@CaterChat Sad-start calling em out-4 ex. twt "NE1from X company on here?" I did that & was contacted 2 days l8r by comp rep #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
Mizcity: |
@MsStallings FB isn't a dying trend. I just read an article where there is more info sharing going on in FB than email/twitter #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@eventbootcamp SM is the key to the door, agreed. It only helps to build relationships, we still need to do the work. #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: @beevents Egads. That is a good Egads right? #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents Curious. Did the feedback tonight change or reinforce ur thoughts on value #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
JessicaLevin: |
@pnv123 what attention span? #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
eventbootcamp: |
@GregRuby @windsorarms is a great example here of a venue using SM to bring in business relations and events #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
pnv123: |
SM is all about authenticity#eventprofs #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
CaterChat: |
@MsStallings that is a great idea - thank you! #eventprofs |
8:57 pm |
MsStallings: |
@Mizcity IMO I only use it for fun/social reasons - not prof development like this. Maybe I'm missing out? Definitely possible! #eventprofs |
8:58 pm |
ready2spark: |
@MsStallings Sorry - tried to tweet u a number of times, but my tweets got lost in twitterdom #eventprofs |
8:58 pm |
pnv123: |
@JessicaLevin Attention span? I forget. Too much 2 remember. #eventprofs |
8:58 pm |
beevents: |
@eventbootcamp It is about relationship maintanence. SM is a tool to facilitate the relationship! #eventprofs |
8:58 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark Bermuda Twiangle? #eventprofs |
8:58 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@pnv123 and a reputation builder, or destroyer. #eventprofs |
8:59 pm |
GregRuby: |
@Mizcity I'm not just that comfortable using FB as a "professional" tool. 2 many pics of my tricked out caddy.... #eventprofs |
8:59 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents or create it! #eventprofs |
8:59 pm |
rachelES: |
@ready2spark @beevents omg we're just your guinea pigs for session at eventworld?? :) #eventprofs |
8:59 pm |
ready2spark: |
RT @MsStallings: @ready2spark Bermuda Twiangle? {burst out laughing} #eventprofs |
8:59 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@GregRuby LOL Greg. #eventprofs |
8:59 pm |
pnv123: |
RT @ShowTecAE: @pnv123 and a reputation builder, or destroyer.Absolutely! #eventprofs |
9:00 pm |
beevents: |
RT @pnv123: SM is all about authenticity#eventprofs ABSOLUTELY. As all events and meetings should b about authentic experiences #eventprofs |
9:00 pm |
MsStallings: |
@GregRuby HAHA this guy cut me off thinking he was tough in a blue caddy pimped out with.....snowflakes?? #eventprofs |
9:00 pm |
ready2spark: |
@GregRuby Ha! Tonight's chat is proving to be quite the gut buster. I agree re: FB. #eventprofs |
9:00 pm |
pcrerar: |
@ready2spark Feedback tonite confirms to me that we are still confused, ambivalent about measurement #eventprofs |
9:00 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: @ready2spark @beevents omg were just your guinea pigs for session at eventworld?? :) NEVER. #eventprofs |
9:00 pm |
spkrinteractive: |
Thanks for chat gotta run. great job @beevents #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
MsStallings: |
@ready2spark I'm pretty proud of that one...not gonna lie (giggle) ahhh..Bermuda Twiangle. #kindofabigdeal #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
beevents: |
To All: It looks like an hour has come and gone. GREAT thoughts. Thanks. And we can keep them running. #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
MelyMello: |
@MsStallings Bermuda Twiangle? hahahah!!!! #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
ready2spark: |
@rachelES Goodness no! But you can be if you want to be. We're animal free - we only test on event pros. #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
metzpeter: |
@GregRuby Agree. FB is for reconnecting with people you didn't like in HS. #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
rachelES: |
@pcrerar it's not just us tho. even top marketers don't know how to measure. tools are in development #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
MsStallings: |
@spkrinteractive good night! #hashhug (thoughts?) I'm on a creative streak tonight! #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
beevents: |
@pcrerar DM me. I have a blog on measurement. It is that measurement is a vast thing, & like value multi-dimensional #eventprofs |
9:01 pm |
pnv123: |
RT @metzpeter: @GregRuby Agree. FB is for reconnecting with people you didnt like in HS. #eventprofs |
9:02 pm |
pcrerar: |
@beevents Thanks so much, it was great! #eventprofs |
9:02 pm |
ready2spark: |
@pcrerar Yes, I'd agree. We should probably have a chat reserved for ROI. #eventprofs |
9:02 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
Amen RT @metzpeter @GregRuby Agree. FB is for reconnecting with people you didn't like in HS #eventprofs |
9:02 pm |
beevents: |
RT @metzpeter: @GregRuby Agree. FB is for reconnecting with people ... in HS. But out colleagues say that about Twitter. #eventprofs |
9:02 pm |
rachelES: |
@ready2spark #eventprofs T-shirt?? "Only Tested On Event Pros" |
9:02 pm |
GregRuby: |
@metzpeter Hitting close to home on that one! #eventprofs |
9:02 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Wonderfull chat all, GREAT JOB to @beevents #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
MsStallings: |
LOL! SO true! Just 2 see if they r fat/divorced! RT @pnv123 @GregRuby Agree. FB is 4 reconnecting w/ ppl u didnt like in HS #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
GregRuby: |
@MsStallings Kinda like #hugs, but I can't remember who started that one. #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
MelyMello: |
@MsStallings you're on fire tonight! :) #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
pcrerar: |
@beevents Will do, thanks! #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
pnv123: |
Great chat. Glad that I finally was able to here for the chat. & great moderating #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
ready2spark: |
Goodnight all. Thank you for an animated chat! Thx to our gr8 moderator @beevents! #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
Mizcity: |
@CaterChat Eventprofs were also & have seen an increasing adoption rate.u need 2 start the chatter, evangelize 2 peers! #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
rachelES: |
@Partyaficionado disagree. FB is space where you can interact w/clients, colleagues, partners more casually #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
sparklegem: |
LOL. RT @pnv123 @metzpeter: @GregRuby Agree. FB is for reconnecting with people you didnt like in HS. #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Have a great night all, have to get to rehearsals at Theatre. #eventprofs |
9:03 pm |
ready2spark: |
If u want to b a moderator for an upcoming chat, sign up here: http://bit.ly/GB3mN #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
Mizcity: |
@MsStallings gets the #eventprofs chat VIP tonight :D #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
rachelES: |
@ShowTecAE told y'all @beevents was FULL of.... oh yeah, ideas! #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
beevents: |
RT #beevents @rachelES: @GregRuby And I wish I knew the Event ROI equivalent to the "Media Impression" and "Web Click Through". #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
ready2spark: |
We're also looking for topic suggestions :) #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
bravoparty: |
Happy I attended my first chat, hope you'll invite the french guy again. #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
MsStallings: |
Agree w/ @ShowTecAE-we just keep on getting better! TY @BeEvents 4 moderating! You rock...heck, we all do. #kindofabigdeal #eventprofs |
9:04 pm |
Mizcity: |
D'oh, I meant @MsStallings gets the chat MVP tonight ( she IS a VIP :D ) !! #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
pcrerar: |
@rachelES Agreed. They are getting comfortable with online tools, but f2f measurement is new, still confusing, sometimes costly #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
bravoparty: |
merci et à la prochaine. #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
ready2spark: |
@Mizcity Ooh - love it. VIP, MVP and OMG. #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
beevents: |
RT @rachelES: @Partyaficionado disagree. FB is space where you can interact w/clients, colleagues, partners more casually #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
GregRuby: |
@beevents Nice job with the chat tonight! #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
CaterChat: |
@Mizcity yes bc event pros r very with it. we do start convos & evangelize... depends how wired your audience is. FB=better #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
metzpeter: |
G'night all. Still three hours of show left here. Lift a glass of wine for me #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
pcrerar: |
LOL! RT @rachelES: @ShowTecAE told yall @beevents was FULL of.... oh yeah, ideas! #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@ready2spark I have a topic suggestion for you, remind me tomorrow to send it. #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
@rachelES Thats what I use Linked In for. I used FB for events in 06 and 07, but for my pref. I don't like at all. #eventprofs |
9:05 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
@metzpeter Have a great show! #eventprofs |
9:06 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings Thanks for the kind words!! and all your thoughts and ideas!! #eventprofs |
9:06 pm |
ready2spark: |
@ShowTecAE U can put it right on the wiki http://www.eventprofs.pbworks.com #eventprofs |
9:06 pm |
GregRuby: |
@Mizcity Agreed @MsStallings for MVP! #eventprofs |
9:06 pm |
ShowTecAE: |
Have a great night all, talk to ya later. #eventprofs |
9:07 pm |
MelyMello: |
Thanks for a great chat! and thanks to @beevents for doing a great job moderating !! #eventprofs |
9:07 pm |
Mizcity: |
@GregRuby I thought that was you on last week's episode of "Pimp My Ride" !! (a lil late to the game- just saw your @) #eventprofs |
9:07 pm |
beevents: |
@GregRuby Thanks for the Twrops! (Is there a good Tweet-high-five?) #eventprofs |
9:07 pm |
rachelES: |
@Partyaficionado I always say... linkedin = office, FB = backyard bbq, twitter = cocktail reception, myspace = bar #eventprofs |
9:07 pm |
MsStallings: |
Dont forget WTF @ready2spark @Mizcity-@Mizcityu r 2 sweet. This community has VALUE 4 me! Lets take look at ourselves 4 value! #eventprofs |
9:08 pm |
rachelES: |
Thx to everyone - FAB job of stimulating conversation @beevents! #eventprofs |
9:08 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
To me, FB is like aol email users (sorry if i cut too deep)-- Late adopters #eventprofs |
9:08 pm |
bravoparty: |
*cough* shameless self-promotion *cough* http://www.linkedin.com/in/mberube #eventprofs |
9:09 pm |
beevents: |
@MelyMello Thanks for the Sharing the Twove! (Again I am looking for a good Tweet-high-five!) #eventprofs |
9:09 pm |
beevents: |
RT LOL!! @rachelES: @Partyaficionado linkedin = office, FB = backyard bbq, twitter = cocktail reception, myspace = bar #eventprofs |
9:09 pm |
GregRuby: |
@Mizcity Pimpin' ain't easy! Gotta get it ready for the trip to Atlanta in December for IAEE. #eventprofs |
9:10 pm |
Partyaficionado: |
@rachelES Exactly! My FB profile photo is me circa 1982. :-) #eventprofs |
9:10 pm |
bravoparty: |
RT @rachelES linkedin = office, FB = backyard bbq, twitter = cocktail reception, myspace = bar #eventprofs |
9:10 pm |
MsStallings: |
@GregRuby-is that ur way of apologizing 4 cutting me off? It worked-I'm very flattered. U all r GR8 & ur work is lucky 2 have u #eventprofs |
9:11 pm |
CaterChat: |
thx y'all! great job moderating @beevents, thx for ideas @Mizcity! #eventprofs |
9:11 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings Funny. If any1 knows Michael Cerbelli he answered my event design ROI equation: X=F*A*M with WTF. Doesn't do math #eventprofs |
9:11 pm |
MelyMello: |
ohhh - that's good! RT @rachelES linkedin = office, FB = backyard bbq, twitter = cocktail reception, myspace = bar #eventprofs |
9:11 pm |
ready2spark: |
Don't forget #caterchat & #spkrchat tomorrow evening! #eventprofs |
9:11 pm |
beevents: |
@rachelES All the time. You know how much I like to share my...er...ideas. #eventprofs |
9:11 pm |
MsStallings: |
copyright this one! RT @rachelES linkedin = office, FB = backyard bbq, twitter = cocktail reception, myspace = bar #eventprofs |
9:13 pm |
Mizcity: |
@beevents Im in ISES NY Metro with Michael - he's hilarious. #eventprofs |
9:13 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents I can't wait 'till we're in San Fran. Looking fwd 2 seeing u, Marla & Richard Foulkes. Prepare the population. #eventprofs |
9:13 pm |
beevents: |
RT @MsStallings: copyright this one! .... What happened to "free content" :o) #eventprofs |
9:13 pm |
Mizcity: |
Thanks for being a stellar moderator @beevents! #eventprofs |
9:13 pm |
beevents: |
@Mizcity Cool - Love the guy! I'm ISES MSP. #eventprofs |
9:13 pm |
rachelES: |
btw my equation is modified - collaboration!! @lvwedconcierge deserves credit, and I think the founder of LinkedIn #eventprofs |
9:14 pm |
MsStallings: |
by the way - not sure if you all have noticed, but we have some competition for best community w/ #hcsm (health care SM). #eventprofs |
9:14 pm |
rachelES: |
speaking of cocktails... it's that time in CA! thanks everyone!! #eventprofs |
9:14 pm |
beevents: |
@ready2spark Agreed. It will be GREAT! Night Folks! #eventprofs |
9:20 pm |
MsStallings: |
My #eventprofs T-shirt: "Value = I held my pee for an hour so I didn't miss a Tweet" #eventprofs |
9:22 pm |
beevents: |
@MsStallings But will people percieve the Virtual Content" to be of the same VALUE as the Live content (and we come full circle. #eventprofs |
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July 22, 2009 |
2:46 am |
MelyMello: |
During 2nites chat I was asking if anyone could 'member a link re: an ROI calculator. Found it! http://tinyurl.com/om5xru #eventprofs |
2:26 pm |
ready2spark: |
@beevents #eventprofs Per last night's chat. Law of Value: Ur tru worth is determned by how much more u give in value than u take in payment |
2:48 pm |
beevents: |
RT @ready2spark: @beevents #eventprofs : Law of Value: Ur tru worth is determned by how much more u give in value than u take in payment |
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