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Archive - May 7, 2009

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Jeffhurt@dianarowe We just did a tweetchat for #eventprofs & one topic was user-generated events. How timely, right. -1:28 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@samueljsmith Thanks, I think <g>. I know others like me. I used to work at MPI so I know ppl do it. Have gr8 week. #eventprofs -1:08 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@Jeffhurt Hey I have to run. nice talking to you again! #eventprofs -1:07 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@Jeffhurt I agree with you that it can be done. I just don't see it happening broadly across the market. You are the exception. #eventprofs -1:06 PM May 7th, 2009
clintonbon@jeffhurt Hi Jeff, Chris had to hop off, asked me to hop on in, but thanks! #eventprofs -1:05 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@samueljsmith I've done both & still had same experience. It takes educating the powers that be about good preso skills. #eventprofs -1:03 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@GregRuby Nice job tonight (in Europe). thanks #eventprofs -1:03 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu Lots of great info, thanks people. Read you around! #eventprofs -1:03 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@Jeffhurt That is awesome. Corporate and Commercial events are different in that regard. #eventprofs -1:02 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@bucchere Hey Chris! Loving what we are seeing with our event web/reg/social site! #eventprofs -1:02 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty Great job @GregRuby! Thanks everyone. See you next time #eventprofs -1:02 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Thanks @GregRuby for moderating & happy belated birthday. #eventprofs -1:02 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive Thx all. Great info. #eventprofs -1:01 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@mind4meetings That's tough yes. It's about educating those execs and takes time. #eventprofs -1:01 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid Interesting chat, thanks everyone! #eventprofs -1:01 PM May 7th, 2009
bucchere@spkrinteractive You too, Swan. Sorry I joined so late. #eventprofs -1:01 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu@GregRuby Thanks, great job! = ) #eventprofs -1:01 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@bucchere chris, good to see you here #eventprofs -1:00 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby I have to head off for a meeting. Great chat everyone! Last one out, please turn off the lights! #eventprofs -1:00 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@samueljsmith Thx. Spkrs I hire will tell U I'm hard on them. I put in their contract they must score 80% or higher to get paid #eventprofs -1:00 PM May 7th, 2009
eventpublisher@GregRuby Thanks for the chat Greg! Fun stuff! #eventprofs -12:59 PM May 7th, 2009
mind4meetings@jeffhurt You are lucky - but not all planners are valued in this way by their executives. #eventprofs -12:59 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@Jeffhurt I wish everyone else was like you. #eventprofs -12:59 PM May 7th, 2009
bucchere@SmartSource My slide rule is a little different from Guy's: 100-15-0 -- 100 slides, 15 minutes and ZERO words. #eventprofs#eventprofs -12:59 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@KenaSiu You interview speakers. You ask lots of questions. See if they understand good adult learning skills. #eventprofs -12:59 PM May 7th, 2009

samueljsmith Has anyone read the book meeting architecture? #eventprofs -12:58 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Next chat is scheduled for Monday, May 11 at 9P ET. Topics will be posted on the wiki site. #eventprofs -12:58 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@samueljsmith I work w/my execs in those situations. I coach, train and let them see evals. They get the impt of doing it right. #eventprofs -12:58 PM May 7th, 2009
markkley RT @SmartSource: The 10-20-30 PPT from Guy - 10 slides, no more than 20 minutes, no smaller than 30 pt font. #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive I will volunteer again to carve out the twitter handles in case people want to follow them. #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@Jeffhurt Sometimes the speakers are not hired. They are execs, or Sr. Mgrs or the only guy they could find to fill the slot. #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@mind4meetings It's completely my responsibility 2 get speakers who have gd content & gd delivery. Gd content bad delivery =fail #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu@Jeffhurt Should we ask for a pitch to the speaker? or how does it work? #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
mind4meetings@jeffhurt Some planners don't have that luxury and are more order-takers for executives. Still, GREAT point. #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
SmartSource The 10-20-30 PPT from Guy - 10 slides, no more than 20 minutes, no smaller than 30 pt font. #eventprofs -12:57 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@mind4meetings Either the planner or the Content Owner. Content needs to be orchestrated through the entire event. #eventprofs -12:56 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby An archive of this chat will be posted on the wiki later tonight. #eventprofs -12:56 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@mind4meetings@samueljsmith Isn't the mtg planner the one hiring the speaker? If they can't present properly, don't hire them! #eventprofs -12:56 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt Trying to inform the general public and media. Check out @keepmeeting for more details. #eventprofs -12:56 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby We are fast approaching the end of the hour. Thanks to everyone for thier participation. #eventprofs -12:56 PM May 7th, 2009
mind4meetings@samueljsmith But at what point is it the planner's responsibility to tell a speaker how to present? #eventprofs#eventprofs -12:55 PM May 7th, 2009
SmartSource@mind4meetings@deirdrereid Guy Kawasakis 10-20-30 Powerpoint rule is a great outline for PPT presentations #eventprofs -12:55 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby Who is the audience for those events? Who are they trying to educate? #eventprofs -12:55 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@crowdvine That's fantastic! #eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby Sorry have to run. Thanks Greg for another great chat! #eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive I think we're talking two different things. I abhor speakers who do not have visual with their presentations. #eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Several CVBs around the country are organizing events on the 12th 2 promote tourism and events. They created a #rallyday hashtag #eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
crowdvine@deirdrereid I really enjoyed the book Slide:ology for teaching how to use PPT as an aid http://tinyurl.com/5nejvq#eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
mind4meetings@deirdrereid I agree - PPT is so often misused. Attendees are there to see a speaker present not read words on a screen. #eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@deirdrereid I think that too many plnrs outsource the "content" to the speaker. Giving him/her little direction. So we get PPT. #eventprofs -12:54 PM May 7th, 2009
ctstew@katieroski absolutely spot on! #eventprofs -12:53 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@Jeffhurt you don't think video with ppt is enough for passive learning? Has to be in-person? #eventprofs -12:53 PM May 7th, 2009
eventpublisher@ctstew Backchannel would be very useful - for learners, presenters, organizers. #eventprofs -12:53 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@deirdrereid Totally agree with you! #eventprofs -12:53 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@katieroski Totally agree. #eventprofs -12:53 PM May 7th, 2009
ncbarnes RT @GregRuby: A few industry associations have been promoting Tues May 12th to highlight the values of meeting in the economy. #eventprofs -12:53 PM May 7th, 2009
crowdvine@samueljsmith +1. We see 30-70% uptake which we attribute mostly to a clear objective: will help you meet other attendees. #eventprofs -12:52 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive As an educator, if U don't provide some visual element U've lost 1/3 of yr aud. Needs 2 B there & done right #eventprofs -12:52 PM May 7th, 2009
ctstew@eventpublisher but even those events will have a backchannel, either twitter or some iteration? #eventprofs -12:52 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby A few of the industry associations have been promoting next Tuesday the 12th to highlight the values of meeting in the economy. #eventprofs -12:52 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid@Jeffhurt The problem w PPT is how it's still done by many, text-heavy, crutch for speaker. Speaker error, not medium error. #eventprofs -12:51 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@jessrafferty I think more ppl need to understand/figure out uses of SM and make the time. it is the future of enhancing mtgs. #eventprofs -12:51 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Some really good discussion here. Would like to take a few minutes to talk about National Tourism Week, which is next week. #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Meetings/Events are about the attendees. The integration of SM allows for user generated and enriches the attendee experience. #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@Jeffhurt but the ppt learning can be done pre- in-person event #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith Exactly! You need to have a clear objectives or else the interactive technology will fail or appear as a toy. #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
eventpublisher@ctstew with some events perhaps. Others, like med. education, not so much - though live/webcast/streams are increasing. #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@crowdvine and proper training/support - that ol nutshell #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@ctstew No, the PPT generated content has it's place for those that are visual learners. SM augments it. #eventprofs -12:50 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid@samueljsmith And shouldn't implement SM for "fancy new toy" reasons, needs to enhance value of meeting/show/conf. #eventprofs -12:49 PM May 7th, 2009
crowdvine@samueljsmith Best way to learn is to experience it. #eventprofs -12:49 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@samueljsmith Unless they've downloaded YouTube videos. <g> #eventprofs -12:49 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@samueljsmith I agree. I always hear "I don't have the time" #eventprofs -12:49 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@spkrinteractive IMO ppl need to understand how to implement SM and other interactive tools. It is not turning on a DVD player #eventprofs -12:48 PM May 7th, 2009
crowdvine@spkrinteractive Somewhat relevant data: we saw twitter usage jump 70%/year within individual conference series. #eventprofs -12:48 PM May 7th, 2009
ctstew so will the pure powerpoint conference presentation w/o user genereated content be dead within, say, 2 yrs? sooner? #eventprofs -12:48 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@spkrinteractive If u can implement for low cost, many mtgs will have tech tools incorporated into F2F meetings this year I bet #eventprofs -12:48 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid@Jeffhurt Wasn't there a Pecha Kucha session at ASAE once? Wasn't there, wonder how it went. #eventprofs -12:48 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive What situation improving? Mtg planners integrating SM or audience driven events? #eventprofs -12:48 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@spkrinteractive Agreed. That would apply to all interactive event technology. #eventprofs -12:47 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Rt @spkrinteractive My point is that proper use of SM exists, but is the tip of the iceberg to what it could be [w/F2F events 2] #eventprofs -12:47 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@mmcallen video cam does the trick :) #eventprofs -12:47 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive Curious how fast you guys think the situation will improve? #eventprofs -12:47 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive My point is that proper use of SM exists, but is the tip of the iceberg to what it could be. #eventprofs -12:46 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@deirdrereid Pecha Kucha is tough to plan as a meeting planner. It's a whole new way of presenting. #eventprofs -12:45 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu@calummaclean I'll have to figure out how to use it in Skype then #eventprofs -12:45 PM May 7th, 2009
SmartSource Chicago Area Event Planners - We have a free computer and av rental product showcase this month http://bit.ly/UBGlk FYI #eventprofs -12:45 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive Tough to say but I think the experienced meeting planners with focus on attendee/strategic are doing it #eventprofs -12:45 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@spkrinteractive That's a loaded question! #eventprofs -12:45 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid@Jeffhurt I was going to mention Pecha Kucha. Never seen one IRL but seems to add dynamic stimulating element. #eventprofs -12:45 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@Jeffhurt What percentage of meeting planners would you consider "savvy"? #eventprofs -12:44 PM May 7th, 2009
pfont@barichrome can you elaborate on that? Working for one membership-driven org and as a member of several, I'm intrigued. #eventprofs -12:44 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@GregRuby thanks Greg for hosting! #eventprofs -12:44 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@TheOsheaReport Thanks for being here. Always good to see your tweets and read your views. #eventprofs -12:44 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt A tweetup at MPI, for example. #eventprofs -12:44 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@samueljsmith Oh i set that up at the last minute---- didnt work so good #eventprofs -12:43 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@TheOsheaReport Thanks for your contributions! #eventprofs -12:43 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt I haven't seen that much from PCMA. What am I missing from them? #eventprofs -12:43 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby Can you clarify auxillary events? #eventprofs -12:43 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@mmcallen How is SPIN. I tried to watch the video, but everyone left the room. Must have been me. #eventprofs -12:43 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport got to go everyone! Great chatting with you. Enjoy your weekend. #eventprofs -12:43 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt There's one more user generated event - Pecha Kucha. I know PCMA tried them successfully. #eventprofs -12:42 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby as an organizer, further reach. Potentially, you reach more ppl above and beyond the F2F event #eventprofs -12:42 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive Oh, I think we have. I think the savvy meeting planner mixes both together. PCMA & MPI both do it. #eventprofs -12:42 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@samueljsmith yeah I really think the organic attendee content ends up being better when the death by powerpoint is reduced. #eventprofs -12:41 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive interesting that we have unconferences and conferences, but we haven't gotten good yet at blending them. #eventprofs -12:41 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby As a event sponsor or organizer, what value do you get from these auxillary events? #eventprofs -12:40 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@calummaclean I use skype all the time. Great service. I have a US phone number, video, outbound calls, the works. #eventprofs -12:40 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen I just went to the spin thinktank sessions for senior planners in San francisco and it basically is an unconference #eventprofs -12:40 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@mmcallen Me too. In either case, it is attendee driven rather than a boring speaker with ppt. #eventprofs -12:40 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@calummaclean I think the Skype question depends on whether we own our company, work for a company or association. #eventprofs -12:39 PM May 7th, 2009
calummaclean@katieroski I used it yesterday for the first time with a client and found it very useful but wanted other views #eventprofs -12:39 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@spkrinteractive I've never met Chris Hansen. But I'm getting too off-topic.... #eventprofs -12:38 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@samueljsmith oh probably is the same then. same concept. I think a mix of uncon and structure makes for a better meeting #eventprofs -12:38 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@Jeffhurt Thanks Jeff #eventprofs -12:38 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@GregRuby mind your own business. we all have our own work styles #eventprofs -12:38 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@samueljsmith UnConference, topics planned in advance. Open space, topics decided there. #eventprofs -12:38 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@GregRuby I've heard about these kind of chat groups. Dateline? #eventprofs -12:38 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@mmcallen I ask because I thought open space was the topics in a room with tables. #eventprofs -12:37 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt We're going 2 have TweetUp @ annual conference this year. Invite ppl from local city 2 cum & mentor attendees on using Twitter #eventprofs -12:37 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@mmcallen As long as it is not a thong.... #eventprofs -12:37 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@barichrome Have a great trip! #eventprofs -12:37 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@mmcallen lol! #eventprofs -12:37 PM May 7th, 2009

mmcallen@samueljsmith not sure? #eventprofs -12:37 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@barichrome Thanks for joining us today! #eventprofs -12:36 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@Simon_D_Young yeah well if I was in my underwear at a live conference it probably wouldnt work- here its ok #eventprofs -12:36 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith@mmcallen How is unconference different from open space? #eventprofs -12:36 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome Sorry to spew type and run. The office in London is shutting down. They are kicking me out! #eventprofs -12:36 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby Can b a mix of both. I usually provide some structure to get them started. #eventprofs -12:36 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@GregRuby just lots of tables in the unconference you could have a topic and sit at the table or look at the others #eventprofs -12:35 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@mmcallen better than this heh? #eventprofs -12:35 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt Is it arranged by the sponsors or does it happen on the fly? #eventprofs -12:35 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen@TheOsheaReport I agree cant beat face to face live meetings for really educating, networking and motivating #eventprofs -12:35 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid Translate our experience using SM for our prof dev needs & figure how to replicate that for our members/attendees. #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@katieroski Peer2Peer, Really Live Chats some of highest rated stuff we do. It still needs some structure from Meeting Planner #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome Better stated: Associations can learn more from us on Twitter than we can learn from them. The individual runs the show here. #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@barichrome Fair enough! :-) #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby Take same concept as we're doing here and put it within a room w/f2f. It's a live chat where attendees drive it. #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@Jeffhurt How effective were they? #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@mmcallen What did MPI do? #eventprofs -12:34 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome All true. I've just found I've gotten the most out of Twitter from the posts of individuals rather than the "entities". #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
eventpublisher@crowdvine I agree. PCMA could use some SM, it's a beast to get around - and no tradeshow! #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu@TheOsheaReport Totally agree! #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark Afraid I have to run. Thank u to all for a great chat!! #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@spkrinteractive Got you. I do hope that doesn't become the norm :) #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt I never heard of the Really Live Chat Rooms before now. #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@katieroski Yes, I've done Peer2Peer, Really Live Chat Rooms, TweetUp & attended an Unconference #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
mmcallen I really enjoy unconference type things- like the one at MPI meet different had some great convos #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
crowdvine@deirdereid Exactly. How good is the networking, really, when everyone is a stranger? #eventprofs -12:33 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport ready2spark There is something magical about a live event that is beautifully planned! No online experience can recreate that. #eventprofs -12:32 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@Jeffhurt Have you done some of these events, Jeff? #eventprofs -12:32 PM May 7th, 2009
crowdvine@ready2spark That augmentation is critical. I was lost at MPI without a way to connect to people. #eventprofs -12:32 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby Other User-generated events are Unconferences, Barcamps, Peer2Peer Discussions, Really Live Chat Rooms #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@barichrome But SM for an business or asso. is to personalize it to individuals. People want to feel like they are included #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid I don't think F2F will be replaced by SM but SM can enhance the conference experience -- before & after. #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby I could really use a spell-check feature here in TweetChat! #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@ready2spark but as someone pointed out earlier, many members do not attend in-person events #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby Anyone that's ever done a TweetUp in a F2F meeting has held a user-generated event. #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
ctstew time & resources devoted to SM has to come from somewhere? I think will be partially a shift from f2f #eventprofs -12:31 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@spkrinteractive Really? SM cannot beat EventWorld or MPI's MeetDifferent conference. It can augment, but not replace. #eventprofs -12:30 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@barichrome But people want to interact w/ individuals, not an industry or assocaiton. Comps & assocs can interact w/ ppl in sm #eventprofs -12:30 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive new service similar to pathable and crowdvine just launched: thesocialcollective.com #eventprofs -12:30 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Let'd switch to User & Attendee generated events. Anyone ever started one up? What value do these have? #eventprofs -12:30 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski RT @ready2spark agreed - assns should serve ind members. #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
MPIRandyC We have had a good experience with Pathable #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive free SM is bringing down the price that assocs can charge #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark RT @TheOsheaReport We're moving to association 2.0! #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome The strength of SM is personal. This is why I registered on Twtr, to get to know my customers and potentials as individuals. #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome@danzisko Sorry, not sure which post you are asking about. #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@Jeffhurt Hee! and what will that be? psychic powers? :o) #eventprofs -12:29 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@slarkins That is a great point. Associations are there to serve the members. If members are using SM... #eventprofs -12:28 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@slarkins@barichrome Yes, they should. Change is hard for some people and fear of unknown big factor. #eventprofs -12:28 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@TheOsheaReport That's good. I'd like to see see associations move to Association 3.0! #eventprofs -12:28 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby 2 minute warning before we switch gears to our next topic. #eventprofs -12:27 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid@Jeffhurt Thanks, Jeff. Great convo, but might have to dash soon. #eventprofs -12:27 PM May 7th, 2009
slarkins@barichrome but shouldn't associations be meeting the needs of individual members, thus should tune into SM? #eventprofs -12:27 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@ready2spark Sure. We're using the same platform SxSw used. We're very excited about it. #eventprofs -12:27 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski RT @ready2spark Definitely 4 updates too! #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive We're in total agreement there! #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt Would like to learn more about that. #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@barichrome Why do you think that? #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@Jeffhurt Interesting - Jeff, I'd like to learn more about this, if possible, offline. #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@Jeffhurt Really? Tell me more. How is this working? #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport We're moving to association 2.0! #eventprofs -12:26 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@katieroski Yes - Or event updates, new member updates, new sponsor updates, industry updates, etc. #eventprofs -12:25 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@deirdrereid Deirdre join us. You've got points to share about value of associations. #eventprofs -12:25 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome I also think social networking is better for individuals than small companies or industry associations. #eventprofs -12:25 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby@katieroski We're using an event/reg system that integrates with FB this year & it's providing marketing & discussion. #eventprofs -12:25 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby I think LinkedIn has some discussion threads, but Twtr is best at the chat/discussion platforms. #eventprofs -12:25 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome I think the strength of some associations is when they are membership run, but that's also a weakness. Hands in many pies. #eventprofs -12:25 PM May 7th, 2009
deirdrereid Good chat going on right now in #eventprofs re value of association membership considering alternatives. Good insight for assns. -12:24 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@MPIRandyC You can send me a check later! :-) #eventprofs -12:24 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport we just had a bureau ask us if we can produce a video for a client who will do their conference virtually this year. Adapting! #eventprofs -12:24 PM May 7th, 2009
MPIRandyC@GregRuby#eventprofs Thank you. -12:24 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@katieroski It might just be me, but I don't see FB facilitating discussions for businesses and groups. That were the others r #eventprofs -12:23 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith Isn't the problem that most assoc. get caught up in how they are going to fund their op budgets? #eventprofs -12:23 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@danzisko Absolutely. They're doing the same old thing they've always done and expecting same results=fail. #eventprofs -12:23 PM May 7th, 2009
samueljsmith Sorry to be late. Hi everyone. #eventprofs -12:23 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@Jeffhurt Good point IMHO conferences and assocs need to re-tool around networking and collab in order to thrive #eventprofs -12:23 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@TheOsheaReport I would be concerned with that. #eventprofs -12:22 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport Since many of us are selling meeting related services that are selling to associations? #eventprofs -12:22 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@Jeffhurt What you run into is they don't think "community" is important. The aren't foreseeing the changing atmosphere #eventprofs -12:22 PM May 7th, 2009
SGBrou when u have the ability to go to the lunch, webinar, etc & you just pay $5 extra. Some assoc we don't use enuf 4 membership #eventprofs -12:22 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@spkrinteractive In theory, associations support collaboration. In reality, many do not. Association membership ROI is ?ed. #eventprofs -12:22 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@ready2spark its the future as you know already :) #eventprofs -12:22 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport If we as ppl in the meetings industry are enaging less in assoc, is that a cause for concern in our industry? #eventprofs -12:21 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby I c FB being used more for mbr recruitment (young mbrs) or press junkets, but not discussion/feedback #eventprofs -12:21 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@SGBrou I've done the same things. Sometime the discount isn't enough to justify the dues. #eventprofs -12:21 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@GregRuby Yes - it is what you make of it. As an association chapter President I hear this all the time. #eventprofs -12:21 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@mind4meetings I totally agree with you. However associations that are not embracing SM are loosing some of the community aspect #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@spkrinteractive Great analogy! #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@katieroski MPI has really done a nice job here on Twitter. A few others have FB pages, but they don't update too often. #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@GregRuby Ever been to a marina on the most beautiful day? Most boats are in their slips. :) #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Deiredre Reid wrote gr8 article comparing ppl leaving association to ppl leaving Twitter. http://tinyurl.com/dk6bol#eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@gioias You always will. People are resistant to change. You just have to push forward and take away barriers to change. #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
eventpublisher@GregRuby We do evaluate - and I've noticed that planner budgets are tight this year #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@gioias yes you find with the new networks adoption of tech is easier #eventprofs -12:20 PM May 7th, 2009
SGBrou@GregRuby#eventprofs we have been cutting back b/c sev orgs charge for lunches and mtgs anyway, so we just pay for those as a nonmember ... -12:19 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@GregRuby YES! We are constantly being told that memberships need to show their worth or memberships will not be renewed #eventprofs -12:19 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby Do u see these groups using the SM effectively? Why or why not? #eventprofs -12:19 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@ready2spark I have always been amazed at those who belong and then never attend any of the events to network. #eventprofs -12:19 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive desire for innovation has not decreased even in the downturn. Innovation often comes from collaboration. Assocs support collab #eventprofs -12:19 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@ready2spark Not join a association - lack of community, lack of resources, not progressive (seen as status quo) #eventprofs -12:18 PM May 7th, 2009
gioias I still find very difficult to introduce new tools and technology in an old school environment #eventprofs -12:18 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@Jeffhurt I agree with that. Particularly in the event industry #eventprofs -12:18 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@GregRuby No, but that's because, as a supplier, we've seen good returns from membership. #eventprofs -12:18 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@ready2spark I think it's that social element. Ppl crave social & relationships. IMO that's why Social Media & Associations work #eventprofs -12:17 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby It is gr8 seeing groups on SM sites. #eventprofs -12:17 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Is anyone having to justify the costs of memberships in these groups to your management? #eventprofs -12:17 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark Other than price and too many to choose from, what are other reasons why ppl don't join? #eventprofs -12:17 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@ready2spark :o) #eventprofs -12:17 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu@calummaclean I use it for personal stuff so far, but it is... lots of $$ savings #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby It is nice to see some of the groups start to have a presence in SM. #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@Jeffhurt yes and itiis so much easier with these social networking sites #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
spkrinteractive@Jeffhurt completely agree. Online interaction can lead to much better in-person networking and conversations #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@calummaclean I only use it 4 family; who uses it 4 business? Useful? #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@Jeffhurt@danzisko agreed #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
mind4meetings@JeffHurt#eventprofs They are equally important - each provides targeted networking & educational opportunities -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark LOL - It makes me laugh that every topic comes back to SM :) #eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
lmdupont if u don't have a corporatebudget [i.e.if you're a small shop/freelancer] joining these associations r too expensive #eventprofs#eventprofs -12:16 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@Simon_D_Young Yes, they do. The challenge for associations is to recreate the community experience like we have here. #eventprofs -12:15 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport I've found that SM is a great way to stay connected between meetings. And then the in person meetings are more powerful. #eventprofs -12:15 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@Jeffhurt I agree. The virtual component does enhance the F2F meeting #eventprofs -12:15 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young Free is always an incentive of course #eventprofs -12:15 PM May 7th, 2009
calummaclean Question for everyone. Who is on Skype and do you find it useful #eventprofs -12:15 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young@Jeffhurt all have their place I think #eventprofs -12:14 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@danzisko@TheOsheaReport I personally see the virtual component as something that enriches the actual F2F meetings #eventprofs -12:14 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@danzisko exactly! Just as TV didn't replace movies, online is a great addition to live. #eventprofs -12:14 PM May 7th, 2009
mind4meetings No big surprise - hotel construction slowing, cancellationsn on the rise http://bit.ly/RH81I#eventprofs#travel -12:14 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@Jeffhurt Great point. #eventprofs -12:13 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@Jeffhurt Hey Simon. Good point. I know many professionals that don't see need for associations with FB, Twitter, LinkedIn #eventprofs -12:13 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@Simon_D_Young Interesting. 4 example, our chat group provides both networking & educational opportunities. #eventprofs -12:13 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@GregRuby On the flip side, there are some profession related issues that make each individual assoc valuable. #eventprofs -12:13 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko@TheOsheaReport I think you need a little of both. Online support and live meetings. Meetings help people come together #eventprofs -12:13 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@ready2spark I think trade associations often do more lobbying on an industry's behalf. #eventprofs -12:13 PM May 7th, 2009
Simon_D_Young of course Twitter, LinkedIn & Facebook all good assoc`s with gps etc- more and more rel #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@GregRuby Thats a good Q. Curious to know where others think Industry Affil. are lacking. #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@GregRuby I think it makes sense to have some unification. We all work together on meetings. We should interact more like this. #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby I think we almost do have too many industry groups. #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu I have been taken great webinars @ MPI #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@Jeffhurt Great question. They each fulfill a different, but equally important, segment in my business development. #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@GregRuby I think its very splinted & confusing. I often which that some were sigs within one larger association. #eventprofs -12:12 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@Jeffhurt Adapt or perish! #eventprofs -12:11 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport@Jeffhurt NSA is definitely trying to move in that direction. Of course as a speaker I'm all for live meetings! #eventprofs -12:11 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty I also think (as others mentioned) associations have excellent learning and networking opportunities #eventprofs -12:11 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt So which is more important to ppl? Trade associations or professional associations? Or are they equally impt? #eventprofs -12:11 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Are there too many industry groups. 34 groups make up the Conv Industry Council. Would it be better if we were more unified? #eventprofs -12:11 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski RT @Jeffhurt I agree. Assns need to est themselves as online resource! #eventprofs -12:10 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby Re: est goals. I base it on my current job & what will best position me with tools, education, etc 4 next job #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
eventpublisher@ready2spark PCMA, ASAE, HCEA for us. As networking goes, some much better than others. #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark In Canada, ISES, MPI and other affilliations are coming together to stand up for the industry + champion for the future. #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@TheOsheaReport I agree. Assocs need 2 reinvent themselves as online resources are helping ppl w/ ed, community, networking #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@GregRuby I think you need to establish your career goals, but also (if you are with a company) keep the firm's goals in mind #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@katieroski MPI has been doing some good work in this regard I believe. #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@Jeffhurt Hopefully a $700MM influx from Apple will help with the tech. difficulties :) #eventprofs -12:09 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark ISES, ARA (American rental association), CRA (Canadian rental association) #eventprofs -12:08 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby By having Webinars, est guidelines 4 social networking. I know PCMA is trying to develop this. #eventprofs -12:08 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Twitter acting odd again. Some of my points are not showing either. #eventprofs -12:08 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko I would have to agree with the education aspect #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@ready2spark I only belong to IAEE currently. Lost my PCMA & MPI memberships due to budget cuts. #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark Very strange - my last post didn't show. Joined ISES to learn about the industry + the ppl. Key value: Networking & Education. #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport It's interesting that there are a lot of online resources that are providing the content and community that assoc do. Like this! #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt@ready2spark Good point. ASAE, MPI DFWMPI for me. #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@atlaswriter Also true for industry suppliers like myself. #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome Some education benefit, but most associations are giving help and instructions to my customers. Networking is main reason for me #eventprofs -12:07 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark@GregRuby Curious to know which industry affilliations are being represented by the group #eventprofs -12:06 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@jessrafferty How do you develop your goals for what associations you want to be with? #eventprofs -12:06 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski Education is key to adding value 4 me personally. #eventprofs -12:06 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu For me I guess it'll be really important since I studied Tourism & need to get certified, which assoc. can U guys recommend? #eventprofs -12:06 PM May 7th, 2009
atlaswriter Obviously it is key to develop industry contacts for lowly writers like myself #eventprofs -12:06 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@katieroski How do they help you keep up? #eventprofs -12:06 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@GregRuby Very timely for me as I am looking to join another one. As @JessicaLevin mentioned to me, probably depends on ur goals #eventprofs -12:05 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Associations in general provide education, networking, research and government relations--all things I want to align with. #eventprofs -12:05 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski@GregRuby Many have value. Need to keep up with tech tools, uses, guidelines. #eventprofs -12:05 PM May 7th, 2009
danzisko Hello all! #eventprofs -12:05 PM May 7th, 2009
gioias Gioia Serra Project Manager, FT Global Conferences and Events #eventprofs -12:04 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty@barichrome Thank you very much! How is London? Tell Harrod's I say hello... #eventprofs -12:04 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport This is Kris from The O'Shea Report in Denver. #eventprofs -12:04 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Let's get started with our topic. How do you feel about the value of industry associations? #eventprofs -12:03 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome@jessrafferty Congrats again on the new position. #eventprofs -12:03 PM May 7th, 2009
TheOsheaReport Hello everyone! Happy to be here with you today. #eventprofs -12:03 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby@KenaSiu Thanks for the birthday well wishes. It is appreciated. #eventprofs -12:03 PM May 7th, 2009
atlaswriter Ken Briodagh, senior writer with Event Marketer mag #eventprofs -12:02 PM May 7th, 2009
KenaSiu Kena Siu, from Romania. Happy delay-Birthday @GregRuby#eventprofs -12:02 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Welcome Brad, Lara & Katie! Anyone else out here? #eventprofs -12:02 PM May 7th, 2009
SGBrou#eventprofs Sara Brouillard from The CE Group in San Antonio, TX -12:02 PM May 7th, 2009
jessrafferty Jessica Rafferty, Booz Allen Hamilton in Washington, DC. Afternoon all! #eventprofs -12:02 PM May 7th, 2009
Jeffhurt Director of Education & Events, national trade association #eventprofs -12:02 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark Lara McCulloch-Carter from Regal Tent / ready2spark.com, Toronto. I can't stay long, but look fwd to the chatting I can do :) #eventprofs -12:01 PM May 7th, 2009
katieroski Hello! I am Katie Roski with the Am Dietetic Assn in Chicago #eventprofs -12:01 PM May 7th, 2009
barichrome Brad Wilson from The Three Waiters. Currently in London. #eventprofs -12:01 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby I am Greg Ruby from the Baltimore Convention Center. Welcome everyone. I am lucky to be today's moderator! #eventprofs -12:01 PM May 7th, 2009
MelyMello sad that i'm going to miss the chat today. prep'n for a show loading in on Sat. things r insane (just how i like it). chat soon! #eventprofs -12:00 PM May 7th, 2009
MPIRandyC RT @jdogniez: Come and visit #MPI@IMEX on stand G665, book your appointment now http://bit.ly/PcrD3#eventprofs#mpi -12:00 PM May 7th, 2009
GregRuby Ladies & Gentlemen, Boys & Girls, Children of all ages - Welcome to the Chat! Let's have everyone introduce themselves, please. #eventprofs -12:00 PM May 7th, 2009
ready2spark Can't wait 2 start chat in a 3 mins. Moderated by the great @GregRuby! Topics here: http://bit.ly/GB3mN#eventprofs -11:57 AM May 7th, 2009

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