July 2, 2009
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9:03 am
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GregRuby:
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Hello all you eventprofs out there! Who is looking to chat? #eventprofs
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9:04 am
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Mizcity:
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Jumping on an #eventprofs chat everyone, please filter it out instead of unfollowing. Thanks!
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9:04 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby me me me Kena from Romania... from Makken's, now Graffino! #eventprofs
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9:04 am
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Jeffhurt:
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Hi Greg, pot-stirrer, contrarian & value questioner fr Dallas here. Or as Seth calls it, heretic, which is a good thing 2day. #eventprofs
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9:04 am
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iBradWilson:
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@Mizcity Well, for that, I'm just going to unfollow you. #eventprofs
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9:05 am
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iBradWilson:
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Brad Wilson from www.thethreewaiters.com, www.hypnotwist.com, and www.thestringangels.com #eventprofs
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9:05 am
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SmartSource:
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HI @GregRuby . Looking forward to another chat today #eventprofs Travis from SmartSource Rentals here
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9:05 am
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Mizcity:
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@iBradWilson whatever Brad... :P #eventprofs
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9:05 am
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GregRuby:
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Can we have everyone introduce themselves? This is Greg from the Baltimore Convention Center. #eventprofs
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9:06 am
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Mizcity:
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Christina, Freelance Event Planner, from rainy NYC here! #eventprofs
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9:06 am
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spkrinteractive:
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Rob Swanwick from Speaker Interactive. Supporting meetings by providing speakers with digital solutions beyond live speaking #eventprofs
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9:07 am
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samueljsmith:
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Sam Smith from sunny Lausanne Switzerland here. #eventprofs
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9:08 am
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GregRuby:
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We don't have an "official" agenda today. Lately, there has been a lot of chatter about MPI's virtual package for #WEC09. #eventprofs
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9:08 am
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KenaSiu:
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Kena from Graffino @ Romania #eventprofs
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9:08 am
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bucchere:
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Hi all! Chris Bucchere, developer, entrepreneur, CEO of Social Collective, epicure, anarchist. #Eventprofs
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9:08 am
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GregRuby:
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What is your thoughts about MPI charging for virtual content of #WEC09? #eventprofs
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9:09 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@samueljsmith Sam, still no tweets about the book. :) #eventprofs
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9:09 am
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samueljsmith:
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@GregRuby Sounds like a good hot topic. #eventprofs
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9:09 am
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KarenBrown:
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Karen Brown, independent planner specializing in user group, technical association meetings and events #eventprofs
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9:09 am
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samueljsmith:
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@spkrinteractive I am making a blog...will post there. #eventprofs
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9:10 am
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spkrinteractive:
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I don't think it is inherently bad, but if people are already questioning value of assns, it strikes a nerve. #eventprofs
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9:10 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby I loved the post @jeffhurt wrote about it http://bit.ly/zA372 #eventprofs
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9:10 am
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iBradWilson:
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I think the problem for MPI and others is setting the precedent early for monetizing "virtual". Maybe worried in 10yrs, no $$? #eventprofs
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9:10 am
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GregRuby:
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By the way, welcome everyone to the chat! #eventprofs
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9:10 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby I don't need to weigh in. Every1 probably knows my thoughts. #eventprofs
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9:12 am
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KenaSiu:
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Even though I'm not a member I think the fee they want to apply is just outrageous #eventprofs
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9:12 am
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GregRuby:
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Should attendees of the WEC be expected to underwrite costs of making the event virtual? #eventprofs
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9:12 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@jeffhurt what about the people who don't want it. Should their membership fee be subsidizing? isn't a-la-carte better? #eventprofs
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9:12 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@KenaSiu Did you see the second post yesterday where author David Meerman Scott weighs in? http://tinyurl.com/m4vzpa #eventprofs
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9:13 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby No. MPI should be expected to use membership revenues and budget for some free content. Membership screaming for this. #eventprofs
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9:13 am
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Mizcity:
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I second @jeffhurt. We have the same sentiments. All the unconferences stream live or post video post conference free of charge. #eventprofs
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9:14 am
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iBradWilson:
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Beyond my "devils advocate" post... I look at these meetings from a diff perspective, virtual kills them for me, I EXHIBIT! :-O #eventprofs
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9:14 am
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GregRuby:
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@kenasiu I am not a member either. Non members actually save more on the virtual package than MPI members based on f2f costs. #eventprofs
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9:15 am
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GregRuby:
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@ibradwilson You definitely want the f2f interaction of the event then. #eventprofs
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9:15 am
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kfoldvik:
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@GregRuby I am not a mbr of MPI, offering virtual content is great, but when I saw the price, thought it was high #WEC09? #eventprofs
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9:15 am
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bucchere:
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There's a great example in #TED -- it's exclusive and super expensive IRL, but all their content is freely distributed after. #Eventprofs
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9:15 am
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spkrinteractive:
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Anyone know how many sign-ups they are getting? Seems a bit late to have announced it #eventprofs
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9:15 am
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SmartSource:
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Too hot a topic for me to comment on from my position but very interested in the dialogue #eventprofs
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9:15 am
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Mizcity:
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The goal for attendees and Assns (like any event) is to bring ppl f2f. Virtual presentations should market to future attendees #eventprofs
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9:15 am
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GregRuby:
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Anyone know why the reply feature in Tweetchats is not working? #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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KenaSiu:
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@Jeffhurt Not yet, but I'll for sure #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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iBradWilson:
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Yeah, without F2F the value of any show tanks for me. #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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Jeffhurt:
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RT @GregRuby I am not a member either Non members actually save more on virtual than MPI membs based on f2f costs. #eventprofs #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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spkrinteractive:
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People need to start using apps like The Social Collective so that the value of f2f collaboration goes up #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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iBradWilson:
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@Mizcity Thats a good point... perhaps then the content should be a teaser to future members (not everything). #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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GregRuby:
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@mizcity Don't most of the uncoferences have some sort of commerical underwriting? #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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tmac20043:
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so is there a price that the virtual pass is justifiable, or is free or not at all? #eventprofs
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9:16 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby really? I don't want to know the other fees then hehe :s #eventprofs
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9:17 am
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Mizcity:
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@GregRuby try refreshing Greg. #eventprofs
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9:17 am
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spkrinteractive:
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"Free" is only good if it converts people to F2F attendees or more loyal MPI members. #eventprofs
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9:17 am
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Mizcity:
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@GregRuby Im actually looking into that now. Most assn conferences that Ive been to have had most of the event sponsored as well #eventprofs
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9:18 am
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GregRuby:
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@kfoldvik What do you think a fair price would be for the virtual package? #eventprofs
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9:18 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@iBradWilson What about adding a virtual exhibt hall for those not there. #eventprofs
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9:18 am
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GregRuby:
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@spkrinteractive It does seem to be a late annoucement. #eventprofs
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9:19 am
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spkrinteractive:
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RT @Jeffhurt: @iBradWilson What about paying for virtual access w/a virtual exhibit hall? #wec09 #eventprofs
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9:19 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt Something along the lines of Virtual Meeting World that Successful Meetings mag does? #eventprofs
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9:19 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 I only want the same thing I got in January for free. I understand a fee for 100 recordings. I don't want that. #eventprofs
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9:20 am
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iBradWilson:
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@Jeffhurt have to see the form it would take. My exp with online listings is they don't get visits. My website does that best. #eventprofs
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9:20 am
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samueljsmith:
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@tmac20043 I am not going to watch all of the sessions. I will probably want to see one or two. That's about it. #eventprofs
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9:20 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt Don't get me wrong - I like the free stuff in Jan. But as a non-member, shouldn't I have to pay something? #eventprofs
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9:20 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@bucchere TED is a wonderful example. SHRM is an example that live streamed & provided 5 ways 2 participate free virtually #eventprofs
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9:21 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby Yes. There are a lot of orgs & companies beginning to offer good quality virtual content! MPI now has competition. #eventprofs
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9:22 am
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bucchere:
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Thanks @spkrinteractive -- I agree that our platform helps reinforce the value of the conf's F2F. #Eventprofs
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9:22 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@GregRuby There should probably be some teaser content for non-members designed to draw you into membership #eventprofs
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9:22 am
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KenaSiu:
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@Jeffhurt I don't understand why they didn't look for a sponsor, or maybe they did... in order to do it like January #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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GregRuby:
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@spkrinteractive Would you offer the content free, only after the live event was over? #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby Read David Lutz' suggestion for MPI on how to provide free and fee based content. He's right on target and how I do it #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@KenaSiu Could be why they announced so late. Still hoping for sponsor until last minute. #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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KenaSiu:
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@spkrinteractive I guess you're right, my be the hook to get you in #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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samueljsmith:
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@spkrinteractive @GregRuby Excellent idea. Though, you need to bld a complete campaign around this idea and start much earlier. #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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ShowTecAE:
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Good morning everyone, it's been a while #eventprofs
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9:23 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@KenaSiu I can't answer that. Makes sense to me that a sponsor would love this opportunity. #eventprofs
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9:24 am
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iBradWilson:
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@Jeffhurt Did you all ready post a link to the Lutz suggestion? #eventprofs
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9:24 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@GregRuby NO. I think it is important to offer live. IMHO there are not f2f attendees who will decide to do virtual instead. #eventprofs
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9:24 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@spkrinteractive I suspect they R using a company that wants to split revenues from virtual access. Several like that out there. #eventprofs
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9:25 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt Dave aka @VelChain is usually dead-on with his suggestions and comments. I'll have to check it out! #eventprofs
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9:25 am
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crowdvine:
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@Jeffhurt What's the best way to pitch new ideas to sponsors? Some seem like they've been burned in the past. #eventprofs
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9:25 am
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KenaSiu:
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@spkrinteractive Late? is an association 4 events, it sounds ironic hehe #eventprofs
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9:25 am
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HeatherHartland:
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Good Morning from Denver. Listening in; wondering if #mpi was worried virtual access would hurt f2f reg? #eventprofs
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9:25 am
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Jeffhurt:
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Here's post. Scroll down and read Lutz suggestion. http://tinyurl.com/m4vzpa #eventprofs
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9:26 am
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KenaSiu:
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@ShowTecAE Nice to c ya here Chris ;) #eventprofs
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9:26 am
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iBradWilson:
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Here is another devil's advocate: When the same content is being shared in a different way, is it any less valuable? #eventprofs
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9:26 am
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tmac20043:
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I thought I read that with the virtual pass you can interact live with people in sessions, the resume help and tradshow people? #eventprofs
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9:26 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@crowdvine I see sponsorship as a partnership. Just as I see securring speaker a sponsorship. I ensure we agree on deliverables #eventprofs
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9:27 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@KenaSiu It's good to be back! #eventprofs
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9:27 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@iBradWilson Nonissue. Issue is same thing that happened to papers, magazines & dotcoms. #eventprofs
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9:27 am
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ShowTecAE:
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What's our current topic? #eventprofs
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9:27 am
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pnv123:
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RT @JessicaLevin: @KarenBrown The tweetup is noon on Sunday for lunch. Meet at the CMP booth. #mpi #eventprofs #assnchat.
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9:27 am
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clintonbon:
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@heatherhartland people will find the content regardless, use it as a bridge to convert greater attendance, that's my take ;) #eventprofs
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9:27 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@tmac20043 I believe they are using pathable for the social portion #eventprofs
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9:27 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 You would know. You work there! #eventprofs
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9:28 am
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GregRuby:
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@ShowTecAE We are discussing the virtual package to attend #WEC09 that #MPI is offering. #eventprofs
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9:28 am
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KenaSiu:
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@tmac20043 supposed to be like that most of he time, but they want to charge $300 #eventprofs
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9:29 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@GregRuby Thanks #eventprofs
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9:29 am
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samueljsmith:
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@tmac20043 Will there be live tweeting offered? #eventprofs
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9:29 am
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iBradWilson:
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@Jeffhurt So, like online newszines, the answer is less people involved in generating content and rev coming from sponsors? #eventprofs
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9:29 am
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KenaSiu:
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@spkrinteractive Yes they are using pathable #eventprofs
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9:30 am
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tmac20043:
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yea, virtual pass gets you on pathable as well. I dunno, I still see both sides, but it seems fair to me personally #eventprofs
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9:30 am
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GregRuby:
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We need to give #MPI credit - 2 me it seems they have done more in SM & virtual than the other industry assns. #eventprofs
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9:30 am
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KenaSiu:
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@samueljsmith Hope they're not gonna charge for tweet sent haha #eventprofs
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9:30 am
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Jeffhurt:
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Something's up with Tweetchat the reply button not working. Hey, @tweetchat guys... #eventprofs
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9:30 am
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tmac20043:
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@samueljsmith as far as I am aware (which usually isnt much) there is live tweeting and interaction encouraged #eventprofs
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9:31 am
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GregRuby:
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You pay a fee to attend an event f2f, what should you pay to get the content virtually? #eventprofs
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9:31 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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RT @GregRuby: We need to give #MPI credit - 2 me it seems they have done more in SM & virtual than the other industry assns. #eventprofs
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9:32 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby I gave them credit N Jan. They R not doing right thing now. Sticking yr toe in & pulling it out is not creditworthy #eventprofs
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9:32 am
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Pirate_AV:
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#eventprofs My opinion, Virtual meetings trainings lose impact do to the audiences ability to simply "glaze over" information
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9:32 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby I agree with you! #MPI had made good stuff virtual #eventprofs
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9:32 am
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tmac20043:
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@GregRuby #eventprofs I just think all educational info has a fee, always has, but what is fair then? what is the right price? a-la carte?
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9:32 am
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Jeffhurt:
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So @tmac20043, you work at MPI, are you giving us the company line or just your POV? And, thanks for engaging with us! #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt Shouldn't they be expected to try and recoup some of the costs to go virtual? Same as from a event attendee? #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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KarenBrown:
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@GregRuby This is hotly debated issue us. Should ass'n members get free access to virtual content? Value of membership? #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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hi all sorry I am late #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 Do you pay for content/education from blogs? Do you pay for content/education from Google? #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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Mizcity:
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My reply button is being skittish too :( #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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clintonbon:
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Think many are missing the point, need to find new niches AROUND content to drive rev. the vids/info is going 2 b free #eventprofs
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9:33 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@KenaSiu @GregRuby the operative word being "had" and now they're trying to make money from it. #eventprofs
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9:34 am
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crowdvine:
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@KarenBrown But don't many associations use their events as a primary means of fundraising? #eventprofs
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9:34 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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@GregRuby I am wrestling with this very question for GMC PCMA our september event #eventprofs
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9:34 am
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KenaSiu:
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@KarenBrown That make sense, but they're not doing it! #eventprofs
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9:34 am
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spkrinteractive:
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RT @clintonbon: Need to find new niches AROUND content to drive rev. the vids/info is going 2 b free #eventprofs
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9:34 am
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GregRuby:
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@KarenBrown Ok, members can then get virtual for free and make us non-members pay for the content. #eventprofs
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9:35 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@gregruby find other avenues to recoup cost & like I said, include it in your budget at first. #eventprofs
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9:35 am
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crowdvine:
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@KarenBrown Although, many of the associations we work with are primarily concerned with being as valuable as possible = free #eventprofs
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9:35 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt #eventprofs I dont think that this info matches up w. google, if that were the case, it wouldn't be so important, its bigger 2 me
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9:35 am
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Jeffhurt:
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Amazing that other associations provide their conference free of charge to members & nonmembers alike - PPAI one of them #eventprofs
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9:36 am
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clintonbon:
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@Jeffhurt I'm with you! Content will get out, no stopping in, embrace it, find ways to monetize - that is where dis. should b #eventprofs
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9:36 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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@Jeffhurt well PPAI does not use conferences as their revenue source.. it comes thru the vendors right? #eventprofs
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9:36 am
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KarenBrown:
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@crowdvine The ass'n we manage does, but is being pushed to add more value than 'just' f2f event. #eventprofs
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9:36 am
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KenaSiu:
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@Jeffhurt yeah, true... recession was then and still, in case that was their excuse #eventprofs
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9:37 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@tmac20043 That's bold. #wec09 is bigger than Google? #eventprofs
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9:37 am
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Jeffhurt:
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RT @crowdvine @KarenBrown Although, many of the assocs we work w/R concerned w/ bing as valuable as possible = free #eventprofs #eventprofs
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9:37 am
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clintonbon:
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Look at Music Industry as PRIME example - all music will be free, it's happening, verticals emerging around content PRIME #eventprofs
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9:37 am
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KarenBrown:
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@Jeffhurt That takes some pretty heavy sponsorships! (Free conferences) #eventprofs
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9:37 am
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GregRuby:
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Newspapers haven't been able to figure this out for 20 years, how will the assocs figure it out then? #eventprofs
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9:37 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@KarenBrown AMEN! All associations (& I work 4 1) R struggling w/ this issue. Pushed to add more value than F2F event #eventprofs
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9:38 am
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crowdvine:
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@Jeffhurt So maybe the question to ask is how could MPI do more with the money we give them? #eventprofs
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9:38 am
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tmac20043:
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@spkrinteractive lol not what I meant, I mean this info isn't run of the mill stuff, its more important IMO, not a wiki search! #eventprofs
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9:38 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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@Jeffhurt many orgs are rolling out virtual events recently well past the point where budgets were done.. so how do they price? #eventprofs
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9:38 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@MichaelMcCurry That's not true at all! They get their revenue from exhbitor fees & sponsorships. I worked there & it was a lot. #eventprofs
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9:39 am
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clintonbon:
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@GregRuby - correct, and look where they are headed! YOUR COMMUNITIES HAVE REAL VALUE - MONETIZE THEM!!! #eventprofs
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9:39 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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exhibitor fees = vendors that is what I meant #eventprofs
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9:39 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 I disagree with you there. I don't think MPI's edis better than what I can get through many free online resources #eventprofs
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9:39 am
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spkrinteractive:
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Virtual can be recorded. That means sponsorship stays active far longer and far broader. #eventprofs
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9:40 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@crowdvine Yes, or how can they do differently with the money we give them as membership dollars. #eventprofs
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9:40 am
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ShowTecAE:
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I think you all are forgetting the scope and scale of MPI. There are a number of other resources than just education #eventprofs
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9:40 am
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tmac20043:
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#eventprofs I still believe that is a flat rate isnt right, what about price/session? whatever the $ is, just pay 4 what you want, thoughts?
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9:40 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@spkrinteractive Gr8 point. Through virtual, sponsorship lasts longer. #eventprofs
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9:41 am
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clintonbon:
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@spkrinteractive YES! great point indeed! #eventprofs
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9:41 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt #eventprofs Well if this edu. is same as google search, then maybe we need to do a better job on that. Should be groundbreaking!
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9:41 am
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samueljsmith:
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RT @spkrinteractive: Virtual can be recorded. That means sponsorship stays active far longer and far broader. #eventprofs
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9:41 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 There are groups talking about members making micro-payments on incremental basis #eventprofs
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9:42 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@tmac20043 I think he was talking about Google Talks not Google Search #eventprofs
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9:42 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ShowTecAE Amen! And there R other revenue sources they could address instead of VAP. #eventprofs
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9:42 am
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KarenBrown:
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@ShowTecAE Very true. Ed was why I first joined MPI, not why I now attend WEC #eventprofs
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9:42 am
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lotsofdimples:
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we have started using free webinars to build up the excitement for the f2f event in sept 2010 - conf will then have a fee. #eventprofs
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9:42 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 If MPI gave me groundbreaking, totally unique education like TED does, I'm pay my own way. But they don't! #eventprofs
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9:43 am
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clintonbon:
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@lotsofdimples - VERY popular and smart trend I think - Give to Gain! #eventprofs
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9:43 am
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tmac20043:
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RT @KarenBrown: @ShowTecAE Very true. Ed was why I first joined MPI, not why I now attend WEC #eventprofs #wec09 #mpi #assnchat
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9:43 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@lotsofdimples excellent way to do it. #eventprofs
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9:43 am
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KarenBrown:
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@tmac20043 Yes - SHOULD be groundbreaking. I'd like sessions I can't find ANYWHERE else! #eventprofs
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9:43 am
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spkrinteractive:
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RT @lotsofdimples: we have started using free webinars to build up excitement for f2f event sept 2010 - conf will have fee. #eventprofs
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9:43 am
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Jeffhurt:
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RT @clintonbon - VERY popular and smart trend I think - Give to Gain! [Amen Clinton! & there's reserach on this too.] #eventprofs
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9:44 am
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tmac20043:
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@JeffHurt well than I think there lies the bigger issue. What do we need to do to make info valuable? #eventprofs
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9:44 am
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GregRuby:
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@lotsofdimples This is much like what #MPI has done - several excellent free webinars over the last several months promoting WEC #eventprofs
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9:44 am
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Jeffhurt:
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All associations are struggling with they do not have a monoply on content any more. Newspapers & mags thought this too. #eventprofs
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9:44 am
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Mizcity:
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@lotsofdimples Exactly! virtual content should be used as marketing to future f2f attendees. Planners know the value of f2f best #eventprofs
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9:44 am
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ShowTecAE:
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MPI provides scholarships, assistance in this economy, databases, research, marketing, supports industry causes, costs money... #eventprofs
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9:45 am
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KarenBrown:
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@lotsofdimples This works well for us, too. Webinars enhance, tease. F2F provides real deal. #eventprofs
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9:45 am
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KenaSiu:
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@lotsofdimples and where can we sing in for the webinars? #eventprofs
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9:45 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt Isn't that exactly what MPI has been doing, then? #eventprofs
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9:45 am
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clintonbon:
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MTO & @stepnold has been an EXCELLENT example of how to leverage webinar "run up" to build MO 4 physical event #eventprofs
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9:46 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 MPI needs to get a better process at education design. Be forward and futurist thinking. #eventprofs
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9:46 am
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crowdvine:
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@Jeffhurt The word a lot of content organizations use now is "curation." Rather than be the source of info, be the filter. #eventprofs
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9:46 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby The series of webinars they has were called 'Meetings matter", was more to reinforce the industry #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@crowdvine I like that. I would also say the assocition needs to be the conduit and community builder. #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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lotsofdimples:
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@KenaSiu - right now it is training for exhibitors (since event is so far out) www.imts.com #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@crowdvine "curation" is the foundation of all web2.0 User-generated-content. #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby Nope, the free content this April-June was preaching to choir. "Why Meetings Matter." #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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RT @Jeffhurt: @crowdvine I like that. I would also say the assocition needs to be the conduit and community builder. #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby Even though they use them to promote #WEC #eventprofs
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9:47 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt #eventprofs #MPI is working towards making ed best as we can, check out the plans! http://bit.ly/neEvU
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9:48 am
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SmartSource:
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Lively debate this time around #eventprofs and I enjoyed the dialogue! Thanks as usual to all the participants, have to run.
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9:48 am
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tmac20043:
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@KenaSiu and Meetings Matter were free to members and non-members alike, a donation to industry in tough times #eventprofs (still available)
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9:48 am
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GregRuby:
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@KenaSiu Still, they were giving free content away virtually to promote the industry and thier upcoming event. #eventprofs
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9:48 am
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KenaSiu:
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@lotsofdimples Ok, thanks, I'll stay tune! #eventprofs
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9:49 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@MichaelMcCurry Costs will continue 2 decrease. Ppl can use Ustream free of charge & its recorded. Cost is av equipment onsite #eventprofs
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9:49 am
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KarenBrown:
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@tmac20043 Sessions specific 2 industry. Good: hotel /planner negotiations. Legal debate. Bad: How 2 organize my office #eventprofs
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9:49 am
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KenaSiu:
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@tmac20043 yeah, free to everyone #eventprofs
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9:49 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@KarenBrown Not when you have nearly 1 million feet of exhibit space. #eventprofs
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9:50 am
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MeetCollab:
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@MichaelMcCurry is it community or country club #eventprofs
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9:50 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@Jeffhurt What about the broadband, the servers, the web hosting company, the infrastructure of the web caster? Not just AV cost #eventprofs
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9:50 am
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GregRuby:
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@KenaSiu Those types of webinars are much cheaper 2 produce when compared to virtually prodcasting from an onsite conference. #eventprofs
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9:50 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 @KenaSiu These webinars were why meetings matter 101 basics for most meeting planners. We didn't need that. #eventprofs
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9:51 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ShowTecAE Ustream handles all of that! You just need internet connection and camera. Just saw it done 4 2 days. #eventprofs
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9:51 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt So if they just step up from the 101 basics you would be happier then? #eventprofs
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9:51 am
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clintonbon:
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Content will b free - focus on specialty of F2F exp., and platforms to monetize your community - there is $$$ 2 b made here #eventprofs
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9:51 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ShowTecAE ANd Ustream is free to anyone. They record it, host it, put it on their server, great quality. #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt And unfortunately, I know of many planners, that need that basic info (including some CMPs). #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby yeah true, they need much more technology for broadcasting #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@Jeffhurt And when the venture capital runs out, what then? #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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MeetCollab:
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What is the desired value proposition for web-based resources? #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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ShowTecAE:
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RT @GregRuby: @Jeffhurt And unfortunately, I know of many planners, that need that basic info (including some CMPs). AMEN! #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@ShowTecAE ustream paid for by ads they include in stream #eventprofs
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9:52 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt #eventprofs "meetings Matter" were huge, even if elementary. tons of people enjoyed it, and wanted more! #mpi
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9:53 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@gregRuby I disagree. There is low entry cost. I saw @tojulius present N Europe live streamed to Qik from handheld mobile #eventprofs
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9:53 am
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7degreescom:
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RT@partnerchannelgreat article from @joerotella (quotes from @andreagold @jessicalevin) http://bit.ly/rPLiP #eventprofs
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9:53 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby I needed them to reinforce my knowledge..after being working on ships 4 2 years, needed feedback #eventprofs
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9:53 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 That's great. So MPI's audience then is entry-level meeting planners or those without much experience. That's not me. #eventprofs
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9:54 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt I think many would expect something more than handheld mobile from orgs like MPI and the others. #eventprofs
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9:54 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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@MeetCollab don't understand your question? #eventprofs
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9:54 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@Jeffhurt I think you're looking at it wrong. In the worst of times evryone needs to know someone is looking out for them. #eventprofs
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9:55 am
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crowdvine:
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@ShowTecAE I'm all for a healthy distrust of venture backed companies, but truly the costs for the web side are dropping fast. #eventprofs
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9:55 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ShowTecAE Right now it is free. Use it! Read Seth Godn's post about this. http://tinyurl.com/mhd2ss #eventprofs
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9:55 am
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MeetCollab:
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@MichaelMcCurry what would practiced MPs like to see in virtual ed resources? #eventprofs
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9:55 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt No, I think with 24,000+ members and non-members out there, everyone is our audience. lots of diff needs #eventprofs
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9:55 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ShowTecAE Explaiin what you mean. Every1 needs to know some1 looking out 4 them. #eventprofs
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9:56 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@crowdvine I'm sure they are, my point is that nothing is free. Either you pay for it or contribute back to it. #eventprofs
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9:56 am
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crowdvine:
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@Jeffhurt Would love a tweetchat about that. What useful things do our meeting associations do for us? As newbie, it's unclear. #eventprofs
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9:56 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@GregRuby It didn't look cheap. It was great. Flip cameras do wonderful things now. #eventprofs
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9:56 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@Jeffhurt When the economy hit, a lot of folks felt that they were screwed. It was reassuring to know that ass fighting for them #eventprofs
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9:57 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@tmac20043 you tweeted a link with a ladder of levels. Shouldn't MPI be providing content at each level? #eventprofs
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9:57 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 If every1 your audience then start distributing free advanced content. #eventprofs
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9:57 am
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MichaelMcCurry:
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@MeetCollab I think most planners are moving to a more strategic role, so ed to address the development of those skills #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ShowTecAE I thought they were too little too late. My members made copr changes in January. MPI didn't bcum active until l8r #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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crowdvine:
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RT @Jeffhurt: @GregRuby It didnt look cheap. It was great. Flip cameras do wonderful things now. [We love our Flip Cam] #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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MeetCollab:
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Why can't communities like this define resources and fulfill them? #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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ImageSpecialist:
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@JeffHurt People will always want to go to conf. because of the people they can meet. That's why I attend. #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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GregRuby:
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@spkrinteractive A very valid question there! #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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crowdvine:
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RT @ImageSpecialist: @JeffHurt People will always want to go to conf. because of the people they can meet. Thats why I attend. #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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KenaSiu:
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@MeetCollab Exactly! #eventprofs
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9:58 am
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tmac20043:
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@spkrinteractive I do believe more ed at each level is in works. every1 deserves all content, just takes time #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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lotsofdimples:
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@Jeffhurt I agree, sometimes the *descriptions* are far too vague to determine the "level" of expertise. #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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crowdvine:
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@ImageSpecialist Are you demanding that the events you go to offer great tools and opportunities for meeting then? #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@Jeffhurt All of the major trade associations seemed to wait a bit to see what the full impact was going to be. #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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Mizcity:
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RT @ImageSpecialist @JeffHurt People will always want to go to conf. because of the people they can meet. That's why I attend. #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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GregRuby:
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@ImageSpecialist F2F will never be replaced, virtual will just help to support those encounters & strengthen them. #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt I do think more advanced content is and will be available, but my Q is why free? maybe not $300, but why free? #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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tojulius:
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10 Alternative Business Models for Events http://bit.ly/jrG42 #eventprofs
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9:59 am
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clintonbon:
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The future is here ... it's just not evenly distributed yet ;) Had pleasure of hearing Tim O'Reilly drop that pearl live #eventprofs
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10:00 am
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GregRuby:
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We've hit the one hour mark and I sure that some of you may need to head out. Feel free to continue the discussion, though! #eventprofs
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10:00 am
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clintonbon:
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@tmac20043 because free will get you thousands and thousands of more peeps on that content, and that can be monetized!!! #eventprofs
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10:01 am
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ShowTecAE:
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RT @tojulius: 10 Alternative Business Models for Events http://bit.ly/jrG42 (Thanks Juls) #eventprofs
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10:01 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@ImageSpecialist I totally agree with U! I value the f2f over the virtual any day. But I can't afford it right now unless local. #eventprofs
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10:01 am
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secretsushi:
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RT @tojulius: 10 Alternative Business Models for Events http://bit.ly/jrG42 #eventprofs
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10:01 am
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MeetCollab:
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Communities can develop programs that are competitive and in turn sharpen the focus of assns not about Xing assn make better #eventprofs
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10:01 am
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spkrinteractive:
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@tmac20043 "Free" because it can be copied. #eventprofs
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10:02 am
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crowdvine:
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Thanks everyone for the lively chat. So glad to join again. #eventprofs
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10:02 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt so you can still interact and get all ed content for less than half the price with virtual pass! so everyone is local #eventprofs
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10:03 am
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ShowTecAE:
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brb #eventprofs
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10:04 am
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KenaSiu:
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@GregRuby Thank you Greg for taking the leash. Gotta go, great discussion everyone, thanks! #eventprofs
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10:04 am
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MeetCollab:
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@ImageSpecialist question is input prep & warm up that makes f2f confs b e t t e r #eventprofs
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10:04 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 It's not worth $300 virtual I don't want 100 sessions. I would attend a local F2F event is what I meant. #eventprofs
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10:04 am
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GregRuby:
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@ShowTecAE Meeting planners and associations have generally not been known for being trend setters. #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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spkrinteractive:
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Thanks @GregRuby Great chat Love the people in this community. Learn something every time. #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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7degreescom:
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@JeffHurt I think we need a roadtrip to Dallas to have some quality F2F with Jeff. #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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samueljsmith:
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@tojulius Nice job on the post. I liked it. #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 I already pay MPI $375 & what do they give me in return for that? #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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samueljsmith:
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RT @tojulius: 10 Alternative Business Models for Events http://bit.ly/jrG42 #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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GregRuby:
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@KenaSiu Thanks for your input today #eventprofs
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10:05 am
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tmac20043:
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@GregRuby Thanks Greg! taking this info to others in office, input means alot to me! thanks everyone! #eventprofs
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10:06 am
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ImageSpecialist:
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@crowdvine Yes, there should be ways to connect both before & during the event - encourage mingling! #eventprofs
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10:06 am
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Mizcity:
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I have to run everyone. Have a great 4th!! #eventprofs
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10:06 am
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clintonbon:
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Thanks Every1 ... spirited chat 4 sure. #eventprofs
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10:06 am
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spkrinteractive:
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For #assnchat #spkrchat #caterchat and others check out Twitter Chat Schedule: http://bit.ly/oXBBu #eventprofs
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10:06 am
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tmac20043:
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@Jeffhurt thats a long conversation that I can't have in140 char. lol, I hope that would have been answered at chapter lvl #eventprofs
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10:06 am
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GregRuby:
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@7degreescom Remember that PCMA is in Dallas in January. #eventprofs
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10:07 am
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Jeffhurt:
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Maybe we should do a joint EventCamp hosted in NYC & Dallas. We could stream speaker from both locations. Mitizi? #eventprofs
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10:07 am
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tojulius:
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@samueljsmith thanks it was hell of a lot of work - missed #eventprofs to do it but very rewarded
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10:07 am
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KarenBrown:
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@GregRuby But we SHOULD be! (Meeting planners and associations have generally not been known for being trend setters.) #eventprofs
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10:07 am
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ImageSpecialist:
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@crowdvine And find ways to break up the cliques (MPI has a lot of these) #eventprofs
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10:07 am
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MeetCollab:
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@GregRuby groups like this are the trend setters #eventprofs
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10:07 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@gregruby I'm going to try to go to that one! #eventprofs
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10:08 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tmac20043 my chapter level ed/events suck! They are terrible & no it's not answered there. #eventprofs
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10:08 am
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GregRuby:
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@MeetCollab True, but we are not in the majority or mainstream of the industry yet. #eventprofs
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10:08 am
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Jeffhurt:
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@tojulius Hey Julius. Talked about you again today. Sorry we missed you today. #eventprofs
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10:09 am
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GregRuby:
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@ImageSpecialist Exactly - one of the reasons I dropped my membership in the local chapter. #eventprofs
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10:09 am
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Jeffhurt:
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Thanks all @gregruby - u did a gr8 job. This topic is not going away anytime soon. Good to see ppls POV. #eventprofs
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10:10 am
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GregRuby:
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@Jeffhurt Am also trying to get to that one as well! #eventprofs
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10:10 am
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clintonbon:
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Anyone still on, please celebrate our independence for what it is, enjoy the 4th! #eventprofs
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10:10 am
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GregRuby:
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Very spirited chat today everyone - hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday weekend! #eventprofs
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10:11 am
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KarenBrown:
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10 Alternative Business Models for Events http://bit.ly/jrG42 (via @tojulius) #eventprofs
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10:11 am
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lotsofdimples:
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@GregRuby - thanks Greg, you have a wonderful holiday as well. #eventprofs
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10:11 am
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ImageSpecialist:
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2 ideas for virtual content: 1-Sponsors! & 2-Charge per session (say $10-20), rather than huge amt. #eventprofs
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10:12 am
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ShowTecAE:
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See you all Monday #eventprofs
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10:13 am
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GregRuby:
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@ShowTecAE That would actually be Tuesday night. #eventprofs
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10:14 am
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KarenBrown:
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@GregRuby Thank you for a great chat, Greg! #eventprofs
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10:14 am
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ShowTecAE:
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@GregRuby Tuesday it is then. #eventprofs
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10:14 am
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MeetCollab:
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@tojulius Great piece #eventprofs
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10:15 am
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KarenBrown:
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Sadly, me too. RT @GregRuby: @ImageSpecialist Exactly - one of the reasons I dropped my membership in the local chapter. #eventprofs
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10:16 am
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MeetCollab:
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@GregRuby the issue is relevance for this community's needs BTW g8 job as always thx #eventprofs
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10:25 am
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crowdvine:
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@ImageSpecialist We should push for an "Ultimate Networking Experience" topic on an upcoming #eventprofs.
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10:27 am
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MeetCollab:
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RT @crowdvine: @ImageSpecialist We should push for an "Ultimate Networking Experience" topic on an upcoming #eventprofs. I'm in
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10:33 am
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ready2spark:
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@MeetCollab @crowdvine @ImageSpecialist Very interested to hear ur thoughts on 'ultimate networking' 4 #eventprofs. Sounds great.
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10:38 am
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ImageSpecialist:
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@crowdvine An "Ultimate Networking Experience" - That would make for great conversation! #eventprofs
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